<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>Hi Eddy,</div><div><br></div><div>According to Ryan CT should work without precerts (precerts are preferred but ocsp responses should be sufficient), however I haven't looked to this option closely yet.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>M.D.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757">Sent from Samsung Mobile</div></div><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: "Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)" <eddy_nigg@startcom.org> <br>Date: 21/02/2014  01:35  (GMT-08:00) <br>To: Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com> <br>Cc: Dean Coclin <Dean_Coclin@symantec.com>,Rick Andrews <Rick_Andrews@symantec.com>,public@cabforum.org <br>Subject: Re: [cabfpub] CT discussion at CABF <br> <br><br>
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    On 02/21/2014 05:46 AM, From Ryan Sleevi:
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      <div dir="ltr">I want to avoid that situation, because it's clear
        you're unhappy, but it's inevitable without more constructive
        feedback.
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                        </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Don’t
                      rush into this, because we’re likely to make
                      mistakes if we have to rush. Not just the CAs;
                      there are a lot of moving parts here. I heard
                      someone say “you can’t make fundamental changes to
                      a complex trust system very quickly”.</span></p>
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            <div>While I can appreciate a sentiment of "Don't rush",
              this is a very vague sentiment that is not actionably
              concrete. What, for example, constitutes a rush?</div>
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    For me it's when CT can be supported without the need of
    pre-certificates. The time it requires to update third party
    software is basically the right time.<br>
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