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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks, Ryan. So if I understand correctly, the modified language to consider is shown below – correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Does anyone object to making these changes? If not, I’ll propose this in a ballot:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Internal Server Name: A Server Name that is an Unregistered Domain Name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Registered Domain Name: A Domain Name that contains as the final level a valid domain according to the IANA Root Zone Database. For domains that end in a gTLD, the Domain Name MUST be registered with an ICANN-accredited
Registrar that is authorized to register domains with the ICANN-assigned gTLD Registry Operator (or an Affiliate or subtractor thereof engaged in providing Registry Surfaces). For domains that end in a country-code or sponsored TLD, the Domain Name MUST be
registered with a duly-authorized entity recognized by the Sponsoring Organization of the appropriate ccTLD. No other forms of Root Zones are permitted to appear within a Registered Domain Name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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[Unregistered Domain Name: A Domain Name that is not a Registered Domain Name.]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As a reminder, right now, the definition for an ISN is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><b>Internal Server Name:
</b>A Server Name (which may or may not include an Unregistered Domain Name) that is not resolvable using the public DNS.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><i>[There is no definition of Server Name in the BRs.]<o:p></o:p></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none">[<b>Registered Domain Name:
</b>A Domain Name that has been registered with a Domain Name Registrar.]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none">[<b>Unregistered Domain Name:
</b>A Domain Name that is not a Registered Domain Name.]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ryan Sleevi [mailto:sleevi@google.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall (RD-US)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Gervase Markham; CABFPub (public@cabforum.org)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Proposal for change of definition of Internal Server Name in the BRs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:24 AM, <a href="mailto:kirk_hall@trendmicro.com">
kirk_hall@trendmicro.com</a> <<a href="mailto:kirk_hall@trendmicro.com" target="_blank">kirk_hall@trendmicro.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>So would it work to amend the definition of ISN and of Registered Domain Name to read as follows?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in">Internal Server Name: A Server Name that is an Unregistered Domain Name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in">Registered Domain Name: A Domain Name that has been registered with an ICANN-assigned Domain Name Registrar.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in">[Unregistered Domain Name: A Domain Name that is not a Registered Domain Name.]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looks like we're mixing top and bottom posts again.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I tried to make a distinction between Registry (that is, a party duly recognized and contracted with ICANN to a TLD within the valid list maintained by IANA) and a Registrar (an ICANN-accredited organization to interact with registrants)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The goal of the wording should be two-fold<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1) Ensure that Registered Domain Names means it is a name that is a valid TLD according to IANA<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2) Ensure that the domain has been registered by a registrant with an ICANN-accredited registrar, for<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For what it's worth, here's the definition of "Registered Name" taken from the ICANN 2013 Registrar Accreditation Agreement ( <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/approved-with-specs-27jun13-en.htm">http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/approved-with-specs-27jun13-en.htm</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1.11 "gTLD" or "gTLDs" refers to the top-level domain(s) of the DNS delegated by ICANN pursuant to a registry agreement that is in full force and effect, other than any country code TLD (ccTLD) or internationalized domain name (IDN) country
code TLD.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1.15 "Registered Name" refers to a domain name within the domain of a gTLD, whether consisting of two (2) or more (e.g.,
<a href="http://john.smith.name">john.smith.name</a>) levels, about which a gTLD Registry Operator (or an Affiliate or subcontractor thereof engaged in providing Registry Services) maintains data in a Registry Database, arranges for such maintenance, or derives
revenue from such maintenance. A name in a Registry Database may be a Registered Name even though it does not appear in a zone file (e.g., a registered but inactive name).<br>
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1.16 "Registered Name Holder" means the holder of a Registered Name.<br>
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1.17 The word "registrar," when appearing without an initial capital letter, refers to a person or entity that contracts with Registered Name Holders and with a Registry Operator and collects registration data about the Registered Name Holders and submits registration
information for entry in the Registry Database."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The above language doesn't quite handle the ccTLD case, but the IANA Root Zone Database does cover these - <a href="http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db">http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry for the nit-picking here, but I am hoping to avoid future questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"Registered Domain Name: A Domain Name that contains as the final level a valid domain according to the IANA Root Zone Database. For domains that end in a gTLD, the Domain Name MUST be registered with an ICANN-accredited Registrar that
is authorized to register domains with the ICANN-assigned gTLD Registry Operator (or an Affiliate or subtractor thereof engaged in providing Registry Surfaces). For domains that end in a country-code or sponsored TLD, the Domain Name MUST be registered with
a duly-authorized entity recognized by the Sponsoring Organization of the appropriate ccTLD. No other forms of Root Zones are permitted to appear within a Registered Domain Name"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I realize this is a significant expansion on the original language, and may be best suited by multiple additions to the glossary (to cover generic TLD, country-code TLD, and sponsored TLD), and while it should be plainly obvious as common
sense, it avoids any ambiguity - and avoids any risk of alternate registries being used and there being naming collisions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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