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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Moving discussion to public list<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> management-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:management-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Sleevi<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> Steve Roylance<br><b>Cc:</b> 'management@cabforum.org' (management@cabforum.org)<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfman] Improving gTLD control<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Steve Roylance <<a href="mailto:steve.roylance@globalsign.com" target="_blank">steve.roylance@globalsign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi Ben.</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As the CA/BForum seems to have some good links with ICANN, is there a possibility you, as chair, could petition them for an API to help us all meet the needs of BR 11.1.4? i.e. highlighting gTLDs that have moved into “contract stage” and also those that have moved into the “under consideration”.</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="https://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt" target="_blank">https://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt</a>  is a list which claims to have been updated today, but AFAICT (From others who get the <a href="mailto:gtldnotification@icann.org" target="_blank">gtldnotification@icann.org</a> e-mail) it doesn't have the last 2 months worth of notifications and of course it only covers the contract stage domains.  Indeed look here and you get another result <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/registries-date" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/registries-date</a> </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Moving forward we all need to ensure we have good control here and the only way I can see that this will work effectively is an API call that we can all regularly make (to a reliable service).  Relying on e-mails is not good practice.  Human errors are possible so I’m hoping we can be proactive here whilst this is all new rather than reactive to an issue.</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888'> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888'>Steve</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think it makes an excellent addition to the agenda, as Google has also petitioned (unsuccessfully) for additional data not provided by that current file - such as the dates associated with the transitions. As part of our programmatic deprecation of internal server names, we wish to use a more accurate source than the Public Suffix List for this purpose. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> 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