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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Eddy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I absolutely consider the methods you quoted far more sufficient than simply looking at WHOIS information. It is well known that the domain registrars, with a few possible exceptions, do absolutely no vetting of the information contained in WHOIS so just looking at WHOIS for MYFAKEMICROSOFT.COM and seeing Microsoft's name and address in the Registrant details is completely useless as any kind of actual verification of anything except that the actual domain owner knows how to look up a company's address.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>As to Jeremy's point about #7, I would be willing to rework the motion to disallow that for EV.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Rich<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 02, 2013 3:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> public@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Proposed motion to modify EV domain verification section<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 05/02/2013 09:16 PM, From Rich Smith: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In the interest of simplifying the EV Guidelines and to allow uniformity of processes where possible I propose the following amendment to the EV Guidelines. I'm looking for two endorsers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br>Do you really consider of these to be sufficient for EV?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>3. Communicating directly with the Domain Name Registrant using the contact information listed in the WHOIS record’s “registrant”, “technical”, or “administrative” field;<br>4. Communicating with the Domain’s administrator using an email address created by pre-pending ‘admin’, ‘administrator’, ‘webmaster’, ‘hostmaster’, or ‘postmaster’ in the local part, followed by the at-sign (“@”), followed by the Domain Name, which may be formed by pruning zero or more components from the requested FQDN;<br>6. Having the Applicant demonstrate practical control over the FQDN by making an agreed-upon change to information found on an online Web page identified by a uniform resource identifier containing the FQDN;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Regards <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Signer: <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Eddy Nigg, COO/CTO<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="http://www.startcom.org">StartCom Ltd.</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>XMPP: <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="xmpp:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Blog: <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="http://blog.startcom.org">Join the Revolution!</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Twitter: <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="http://twitter.com/eddy_nigg">Follow Me</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>