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    On 03/23/2013 02:44 AM, From Ryan Sleevi:
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            <div style="">If the browser has obtained a valid OCSP
              response (eg: via OCSP stapling), they can skip obtaining
              fresh revocation information - because to every compliant
              implementation, it IS fresh revocation information.</div>
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    Let me help you thinking here....in this case there was at least ONE
    OCSP check done, whereas in your case it's NONE.<br>
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    For an attack to be successful you can't rely on the possibility
    that A) the victim has visited the site beforehand and B) nothing
    happened to the cache and C) the software being used doesn't check
    OCSP again. This isn't a reliable attack and too risky of being
    detected early.<br>
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    What you propose is the perfect attack with no chance to intervene,
    very reliably for 7 days. Usually more than enough for the target.<br>
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