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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Van:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org]
<b>Namens </b>Ben Wilson<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 8 november 2012 20:27<br>
<b>Aan:</b> public@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> [cabfpub] Straw Poll on IPR Policy Scope (Membership vs. Participation)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">All,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">This email announces a straw poll. Please respond before this time next week.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">During the IPR Policy telephone call this week, the IPR group discussed proposed language for defining when RF licensing would and would not apply. The current
proposal would grant a safe-harbor from RF licensing by using the following language:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“Notwithstanding any other provision of this IPR Policy, only the affirmative act of [technical participation] (or otherwise agreeing to the licensing terms
described here) will obligate a CAB Forum Member to the CAB Forum RF License. Mere membership in the CAB Forum alone, without other factors, does not give rise to the CAB Forum RF License obligation under this IPR Policy.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The group requires input from the membership on how, and if/when, we should define “technical participation”. We are conducting a straw poll to help the group
decide on the appropriate language. This straw poll is based on the instant runoff ballot process (single transferable vote) used during the governance reform. The end result of the ballot will be provided to the IPR group sometime next week. Please choose
your order of preference for each choice you are willing to accept and respond to this email before next Thursday. Entrust, Identrust, RSA, T-Systems, PayPal, ETSI, and WebTrust should also indicate their preferences, if they want, since whatever decision
we make might also apply to them.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The choices are listed below. Where applicable, “Contribution” will be defined to mean “material, including Draft Guidelines, Draft Guideline text, and modifications
to other Contributions, made verbally or in a tangible form of expression (including in electronic media) which is provided by a Participant in the process of developing a Draft Guideline for the purpose of incorporating such material into a Draft Guideline
or a Final Guideline. For a verbal contribution to be deemed a Contribution hereunder it must be memorialized within approved meeting minutes of the CAB Forum.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">For your response, where applicable, replace the bracketed phrase “[technical participation]” above with the quoted language below:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">A --- “technical participation, as defined by rules of the CAB Forum”.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale: Reinstating the members who left is of the utmost urgency. They would like a provision that distinguishes the type of participation that would give
rise to an RF licensing obligation. We can find a definition that works well for the Forum and all its members once a new IPR policy is adopted and the governance reform is complete and the members who left are able to provide input.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">B --- “making a Contribution or Voting on any matter on which a vote is sought concerning a Guideline”.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale: Members should not be able to contribute to work product or vote on work product without either filing exclusion notices or granting an RF license.
This is necessary to ensure that the Forum doesn’t pass guidelines containing patented material.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">C --- “making a Contribution or Voting in favor of a Guideline”.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale: There is little risk in members voting “No” or “Abstain” since that cannot result in the adoption of patented subject material. Therefore, members
should be able to vote against guidelines without triggering the IPR policy requirements.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">D --- “making a Contribution”.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale: Voting does not influence the actual contents of the Forum’s work product and does not add to a document’s requirements. By the time a vote occurs,
the Forum should have already determined whether the document covers a member’s IP rights. Therefore, all members should be able to vote on a guideline without triggering IPR policy requirements.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">E --- “making a Contribution”, provided that the following sentence of the section is modified to read, “Mere membership in the CAB Forum alone, without other
factors, does not give rise to the CAB Forum RF License obligation under this IPR Policy, unless the Member votes in favor of the Guideline having personal knowledge that it contains an Essential Claim that has not been disclosed to the CAB Forum.”
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale: The goal of the IPR policy is to ensure that all members are aware of the IP that might touch on a final guideline. Plus, voting does not influence
the actual contents of the Forum’s work product and does not add to a document’s requirements. As long as a member isn’t aware of any hidden IP, permitting the member to vote on a guideline does not risk compromising the IPR’s intended goal of disclosure
and avoiding the adoption of guidelines containing patented material.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">F --- “making a Contribution to the Guideline, Voting in favor of the Guideline, joining a Working Group (if one is chartered to develop the Guideline), or
attending 3 or more meetings during which the Guideline was discussed” </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale: Limiting member participation for those unwilling to abide by the IPR will prevent bad actors from obtaining IP rights on upcoming guidelines. This
language prevents members from running to the patent office to file a patent on upcoming work product and prevents a member from, directly or indirectly, inserting IP covered provisions in work product.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">G --- “making a Contribution or attending one (1) face-to-face meeting or more than three (3) meetings remotely in the 12-month period preceding the adoption
of the Guideline”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale: The specific provisions in Guidelines change and what is an Essential Claim may change leading up to adoption. Therefore, the real risk of a member
filing a patent on proposed material is during the 12 months prior to adoption. Limiting participation to this threshold would allow a member that doesn’t participate much, but wants to vote on guidelines, to maintain its membership without having the obligations
of the Forum’s IPR policy apply as long as its participation does not go above a certain level. Once the document heads towards adoption, member participation is restricted to prevent inclusion of patent encumbered provisions and prevent the possibility of
filing new patents covering proposed guideline material.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">H --- No change (CABF members grant RF license unless they comply with Section 4).
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale: The IPR is intended to prevent the Forum from adopting guidelines that contain patent-controlled material of members. Providing a safe-harbor limits
this requirement and counters the original intent behind the IPR’s adoption. Members are free to adopt the current IPR, but the Guidelines are few and easy enough to review that special accommodations should not be provided simply because a member owns IP.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I --- Other. (Please provide a suggested solution and explanation on why none of the other options satisfactorily address your concerns)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale: None of the suggested paths meet the Forum’s needs. The Forum needs to focus on a different solution to the problem.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Ben</span></p>
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