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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
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SSC votes for option H.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
M.D.<br>
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On 11/14/2012 6:00 PM, Dean Coclin wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Symantec
votes as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">First
choice: Option C. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We
feel this is clean, clear and relatively easy to determine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Second
choice: Option H<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 08, 2012 2:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] Straw Poll on IPR Policy Scope
(Membership vs. Participation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">This
email announces a straw poll. Please respond before this
time next week.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">During
the IPR Policy telephone call this week, the IPR group
discussed proposed language for defining when RF licensing
would and would not apply. The current proposal would grant
a safe-harbor from RF licensing by using the following
language:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“Notwithstanding
any other provision of this IPR Policy, only the affirmative
act of [technical participation] (or otherwise agreeing to
the licensing terms described here) will obligate a CAB
Forum Member to the CAB Forum RF License. Mere membership
in the CAB Forum alone, without other factors, does not give
rise to the CAB Forum RF License obligation under this IPR
Policy.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
group requires input from the membership on how, and
if/when, we should define “technical participation”. We are
conducting a straw poll to help the group decide on the
appropriate language. This straw poll is based on the
instant runoff ballot process (single transferable vote)
used during the governance reform. The end result of the
ballot will be provided to the IPR group sometime next
week. Please choose your order of preference for each
choice you are willing to accept and respond to this email
before next Thursday. Entrust, Identrust, RSA, T-Systems,
PayPal, ETSI, and WebTrust should also indicate their
preferences, if they want, since whatever decision we make
might also apply to them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
choices are listed below. Where applicable, “Contribution”
will be defined to mean “material, including Draft
Guidelines, Draft Guideline text, and modifications to other
Contributions, made verbally or in a tangible form of
expression (including in electronic media) which is provided
by a Participant in the process of developing a Draft
Guideline for the purpose of incorporating such material
into a Draft Guideline or a Final Guideline. For a verbal
contribution to be deemed a Contribution hereunder it must
be memorialized within approved meeting minutes of the CAB
Forum.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">For
your response, where applicable, replace the bracketed
phrase “[technical participation]” above with the quoted
language below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">A
--- “technical participation, as defined by rules of the CAB
Forum”. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale:
Reinstating the members who left is of the utmost urgency.
They would like a provision that distinguishes the type of
participation that would give rise to an RF licensing
obligation. We can find a definition that works well for
the Forum and all its members once a new IPR policy is
adopted and the governance reform is complete and the
members who left are able to provide input.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">B
--- “making a Contribution or Voting on any matter on which
a vote is sought concerning a Guideline”. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale:
Members should not be able to contribute to work product or
vote on work product without either filing exclusion notices
or granting an RF license. This is necessary to ensure that
the Forum doesn’t pass guidelines containing patented
material.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">C
--- “making a Contribution or Voting in favor of a
Guideline”. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale:
There is little risk in members voting “No” or “Abstain”
since that cannot result in the adoption of patented subject
material. Therefore, members should be able to vote against
guidelines without triggering the IPR policy requirements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">D
--- “making a Contribution”. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale:
Voting does not influence the actual contents of the Forum’s
work product and does not add to a document’s requirements.
By the time a vote occurs, the Forum should have already
determined whether the document covers a member’s IP
rights. Therefore, all members should be able to vote on a
guideline without triggering IPR policy requirements. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">E
--- “making a Contribution”, provided that the following
sentence of the section is modified to read, “Mere
membership in the CAB Forum alone, without other factors,
does not give rise to the CAB Forum RF License obligation
under this IPR Policy, unless the Member votes in favor of
the Guideline having personal knowledge that it contains an
Essential Claim that has not been disclosed to the CAB
Forum.” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale:
The goal of the IPR policy is to ensure that all members are
aware of the IP that might touch on a final guideline.
Plus, voting does not influence the actual contents of the
Forum’s work product and does not add to a document’s
requirements. As long as a member isn’t aware of any hidden
IP, permitting the member to vote on a guideline does not
risk compromising the IPR’s intended goal of disclosure and
avoiding the adoption of guidelines containing patented
material.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">F
--- “making a Contribution to the Guideline, Voting in favor
of the Guideline, joining a Working Group (if one is
chartered to develop the Guideline), or attending 3 or more
meetings during which the Guideline was discussed” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale:
Limiting member participation for those unwilling to abide
by the IPR will prevent bad actors from obtaining IP rights
on upcoming guidelines. This language prevents members from
running to the patent office to file a patent on upcoming
work product and prevents a member from, directly or
indirectly, inserting IP covered provisions in work
product. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">G
--- “making a Contribution or attending one (1) face-to-face
meeting or more than three (3) meetings remotely in the
12-month period preceding the adoption of the Guideline”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale:
The specific provisions in Guidelines change and what is an
Essential Claim may change leading up to adoption.
Therefore, the real risk of a member filing a patent on
proposed material is during the 12 months prior to
adoption. Limiting participation to this threshold would
allow a member that doesn’t participate much, but wants to
vote on guidelines, to maintain its membership without
having the obligations of the Forum’s IPR policy apply as
long as its participation does not go above a certain
level. Once the document heads towards adoption, member
participation is restricted to prevent inclusion of patent
encumbered provisions and prevent the possibility of filing
new patents covering proposed guideline material.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">H
--- No change (CABF members grant RF license unless they
comply with Section 4). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale:
The IPR is intended to prevent the Forum from adopting
guidelines that contain patent-controlled material of
members. Providing a safe-harbor limits this requirement
and counters the original intent behind the IPR’s adoption.
Members are free to adopt the current IPR, but the
Guidelines are few and easy enough to review that special
accommodations should not be provided simply because a
member owns IP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I
--- Other. (Please provide a suggested solution and
explanation on why none of the other options satisfactorily
address your concerns)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rationale:
None of the suggested paths meet the Forum’s needs. The
Forum needs to focus on a different solution to the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Ben<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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