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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rick,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Erwann is right. For example, we don´t have deltaCRLs, only fullCRLs and allow suspension and reactivation. Once the certificate is suspended, we generate a new CRL (so, it means it´s revoked and you can see the reason) and the OCSP says is revoked. When you actívate it again, a new CRL is created and you don´t see this cert and the OCSP says good.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A practical example, one citizen calls saying he can´t find his smartcard so ask for suspension, so a period time is allowed, for example 15 days, to find it (after that time the certificate can be automatically revoked) but if he finds the smartcard in the couch or in another wallet, etc. then he can calls the CA back (or use another procedure) and say, hey, I found it, can you actívate it back? And that´s it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Other example can be when delivering the smartcards to the users by post, this can be done in suspended mode (the certs are issued in suspended mode or just turn into suspend mode after being issued or whatever procedure has been implemented), then when the user receives the card and also the pin and puk, so can call to actívate it or use a web application or whatever mechanish the TSP has adopted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Iñigo Barreira</span></b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Responsable del Área técnica<br><a href="mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net">i-barreira@izenpe.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>945067705</span><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=585 height=111 id="Imagen_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CDBD92.DFB4DEE0"></span><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#888888;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'>ERNE! Baliteke mezu honen zatiren bat edo mezu osoa legez babestuta egotea. Mezua badu bere hartzailea. Okerreko helbidera heldu bada (helbidea gaizki idatzi, transmisioak huts egin) eman abisu igorleari, korreo honi erantzuna. KONTUZ!</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#888888;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#888888;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'>ATENCION! Este mensaje contiene informacion privilegiada o confidencial a la que solo tiene derecho a acceder el destinatario. Si usted lo recibe por error le agradeceriamos que no hiciera uso de la informacion y que se pusiese en contacto con el remitente.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>En nombre de </b>Erwann ABALEA<br><b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 23:08<br><b>Para:</b> Rick Andrews<br><b>CC:</b> public@cabforum.org<br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Fwd: [pkix] Straw-poll on OCSP responses for non-revoked certificates.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bonsoir Rick,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you don't allow resumption, then the certificate status stays revoked with certificateHold reason.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you allow resumption but don't offer deltaCRLs, then you can't express this resumption (i.e. explicitely tell the certificate is now in a removeFromCRL state). But the certificate isn't revoked anymore and disappears from the complete CRL.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nothing in the RFC or X.509 forbids suspension of certificates in complete CRLs. X.509 is again more clear on how to deal with it, here's an excerpt of clause 8.5.2.2 (200811 edition):<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=p1>Once a hold has been issued, it may be handled in one of three ways:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1>a)<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>it may remain on the CRL with no further action, causing users to reject transactions issued during the hold period; or,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1>b)<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>it may be replaced by a (final) revocation for the same certificate, in which case the reason shall be one of the standard reasons for revocation, the revocation date shall be the date the certificate was placed on hold, and the optional instruction code extension field shall not appear; or,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1>c)<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>it may be explicitly released and the entry removed from the CRL.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----<br><br>Just after follows the description and use-case of removeFromCRL reason code.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(this email will be rejected by cabfpub because I'm not posting from work, can you manually forward it, please?)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2012/11/7 Rick Andrews <<a href="mailto:Rick_Andrews@symantec.com" target="_blank">Rick_Andrews@symantec.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Erwann,</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree that resumption (removeFromCRL) is allowed only in delta CRLs, but I don’t understand your interpretation of the RFC. If you’re using full CRLs and you allow suspension but not resumption, then either</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:20.25pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(a)</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The cert must must remain suspended until it expires, or</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:20.25pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(b)</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The cert status can change from suspended (certificateHold) to valid</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If (a), why use certificateHold at all? Why not use one of the other revocation reasons?</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If (b), it seems that most people who have commented in this thread believe that should not be allowed.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Rick</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Erwann Abalea<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 07, 2012 10:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Fwd: [pkix] Straw-poll on OCSP responses for non-revoked certificates.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Resumption is necessary in deltaCRLs, and is only allowed in deltaCRLs.<br>Suspension is allowed in every type of CRLs.<br>We produce deltaCRLs for some CAs but no public one.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre><span lang=EN-US>-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US>Erwann ABALEA<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Le 07/11/2012 19:25, Rick Andrews a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When I looked at the RFC some time ago, it seemed that suspension and resumption were only allowed in delta CRLs. I don’t know of any CAs or browsers that support delta CRLs.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Rick</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net" target="_blank">i-barreira@izenpe.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 07, 2012 12:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eddy_nigg@startcom.org" target="_blank">eddy_nigg@startcom.org</a>; <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Fwd: [pkix] Straw-poll on OCSP responses for non-revoked certificates.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On the CRL you can suspend a certificate (the response is revoked) and turned it back to a good status and this is perfectly valid.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:9.75pt'><b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:9.75pt'><b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Iñigo Barreira</span></b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Responsable del Área técnica<br><a href="mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net" target="_blank">i-barreira@izenpe.net</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>945067705</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=585 height=111 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01CDBD92.DFB4DEE0"></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:9.75pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#888888'>ERNE! 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Si usted lo recibe por error le agradeceriamos que no hiciera uso de la informacion y que se pusiese en contacto con el remitente.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>En nombre de </b>Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)<br><b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 31 de octubre de 2012 21:45<br><b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Fwd: [pkix] Straw-poll on OCSP responses for non-revoked certificates.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>On 10/31/2012 10:32 PM, From Ben Wilson: <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If a modification of RFC 2560 allows an extension to change the meaning of a “1” response to something else. It was you who said “[it] might be good, …, either due to migration and update time or other reasons (out-of-sync cor whatever).”</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Yes, that's why I think using "Unknown" is the correct response and not revoked for those. A revoked certificate can't be made valid ever after as long as it hasn't expired. And "Unknown" != "Good".<br><br>However once a certificate was marked as revoked, in my opinion a client doesn't have to check again ever.<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Regards <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Signer: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Eddy Nigg, COO/CTO<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.startcom.org" target="_blank">StartCom Ltd.</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>XMPP: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="mailto:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Blog: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://blog.startcom.org" target="_blank">Join the Revolution!</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Twitter: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://twitter.com/eddy_nigg" target="_blank">Follow Me</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre><span lang=EN-US>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US>Public mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">Public@cabforum.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public" target="_blank">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a><br><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public" target="_blank">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Erwann.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>