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<p class="MsoNormal">OK, another clarifying question – are you saying we have new Members TODAY who don’t fit in the 3 categories, or that we WILL have them in the future? I don’t think there are any current members today who don’t fit in the 3 categories.
(WebTrust, ETSI, and Paypal are Observers, not Members.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I support editing the membership criteria in the near future, but because it was not a part of the Trend Micro governance proposal, I don’t want to propose edits in this draft of the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> i-barreira@izenpe.net [mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 08, 2012 12:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall (RD-US); public@cabforum.org; management@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfman] Edited CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v3)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES" style="color:#1F497D">Kirk, I have to say no. We have (new) members that have signed the IPR but don´t fit into these 3 categories. I´m not saying this is good or bad, just saying what it happens and this is that we don´t
follow our own rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:9.75pt"><b><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Iñigo Barreira</span></b><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">945067705</span><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De:</span></b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> kirk_hall@trendmicro.com [mailto:kirk_hall@trendmicro.com]
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<b>Enviado el:</b> jueves, 08 de noviembre de 2012 3:30<br>
<b>Para:</b> Barreira Iglesias, Iñigo; public@cabforum.org; management@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> RE: [cabfman] Edited CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v3)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="color:black">Iñigo – I may not be answering your question properly – But here goes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="color:black">1. Sec. 2.1(a) is taken from our existing membership rules – three categories. I know some Forum members want to modify the current rules, but I did not think that was appropriate in this first
draft of the Bylaws, as the Trend Micro governance proposal did not include any changes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="color:black">2. As to the IPR agreement – we added a reference in Sec. 2.1(c) to Section 5.5, which requires that all Members sign the Forum IPR. There is no change to policy here, only a reminder that a new
Member must sign the IPR to join.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="color:black">Does that answer your question?</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> i-barreira@izenpe.net [mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 07, 2012 2:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall (RD-US); public@cabforum.org; management@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfman] Edited CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v3)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES" style="color:#1F497D">Well, I have one question and this is regarding forum membership. I think I made it some time ago but here´s again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES" style="color:#1F497D">According to this document a forum member can be only a CA (issuing or root) or a browser but signing the IPR anyone can be a member, why this difference?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES" style="color:#1F497D">I think this need a clarification. I don´t understand these 2 options of membership. And if both are valid (bylaws and IPR) why having two? What is the implication on doing one way or the other? Maybe
is somewhere in the wiki but don´t see it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:9.75pt"><b><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Iñigo Barreira</span></b><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
Responsable del Área técnica<br>
<a href="mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net">i-barreira@izenpe.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">945067705</span><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De:</span></b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> management-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:management-bounces@cabforum.org]
<b>En nombre de </b>kirk_hall@trendmicro.com<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 05 de noviembre de 2012 19:08<br>
<b>Para:</b> CABFPub (public@cabforum.org); management@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> [cabfman] Edited CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v3)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have now added a number of suggested edits to the previous Trend Micro document “Proposed CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v1)”, which I posted on October 15.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ben posted a “(v2)” version of the Bylaws containing his suggested edits, so to avoid confusion I have labeled Trend Micro’s new version “Proposed CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v3) Trend Micro 5 Nov 2012.”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As I indicated in yesterday’s email, I decided it would be inappropriate (1) to make significant changes to existing Forum rules that were not included in the Trend Micro governance proposal we voted on, or (2) to add totally new rules
that were not included in the Trend Micro governance proposal we voted on. I did accept a number of suggested edits to improve new provisions that were part of the Trend Micro governance proposal that was approved by the Forum. All other proposed edits can
be put forward by later ballot if and when the Bylaws are adopted.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All the changes are shown in Showing Changes mode with my explanations in comments. I also attach a clean version that includes all the edits.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you see problems with the language as edited, please let me know. I will wait to put forward the final proposed version of the Bylaws for discussion and a vote until after our Forum call this Thursday.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There will clearly be some additional provisions we should add to the Bylaws if they are adopted, including more details of how Interested Parties participate in new Working Groups (e.g., the need for a separate IPR for Interested Parties
that is focused on their Working Group participation only, allowing an MOU for those standards bodies that are not allowed to sign an IPR agreement with the Forum, etc.), coming up with general rules for admitting Observers to the Forum, and dealing with the
other proposed edits that I did not include in this version 3. I plan to work with the most active commenters – chiefly Ben and Jeremy (although others are welcome) – to bring forward proposed Bylaws amendments in later weeks if the Bylaws are adopted.<o:p></o:p></p>
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