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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kirk, I have to say no. We have (new) members that have signed the IPR but don´t fit into these 3 categories. I´m not saying this is good or bad, just saying what it happens and this is that we don´t follow our own rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Iñigo Barreira</span></b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Responsable del Área técnica<br><a href="mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net">i-barreira@izenpe.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>945067705</span><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=585 height=111 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.png@01CDBD95.1A831F30"></span><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#888888;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'>ERNE! Baliteke mezu honen zatiren bat edo mezu osoa legez babestuta egotea. Mezua badu bere hartzailea. Okerreko helbidera heldu bada (helbidea gaizki idatzi, transmisioak huts egin) eman abisu igorleari, korreo honi erantzuna. KONTUZ!</span><span style='color:#888888;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#888888;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'>ATENCION! Este mensaje contiene informacion privilegiada o confidencial a la que solo tiene derecho a acceder el destinatario. Si usted lo recibe por error le agradeceriamos que no hiciera uso de la informacion y que se pusiese en contacto con el remitente.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> kirk_hall@trendmicro.com [mailto:kirk_hall@trendmicro.com] <br><b>Enviado el:</b> jueves, 08 de noviembre de 2012 3:30<br><b>Para:</b> Barreira Iglesias, Iñigo; public@cabforum.org; management@cabforum.org<br><b>Asunto:</b> RE: [cabfman] Edited CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v3)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:black'>Iñigo – I may not be answering your question properly – But here goes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:black'>1. Sec. 2.1(a) is taken from our existing membership rules – three categories. I know some Forum members want to modify the current rules, but I did not think that was appropriate in this first draft of the Bylaws, as the Trend Micro governance proposal did not include any changes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:black'>2. As to the IPR agreement – we added a reference in Sec. 2.1(c) to Section 5.5, which requires that all Members sign the Forum IPR. There is no change to policy here, only a reminder that a new Member must sign the IPR to join.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:black'>Does that answer your question?</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> i-barreira@izenpe.net [mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 07, 2012 2:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> Kirk Hall (RD-US); public@cabforum.org; management@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfman] Edited CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v3)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Well, I have one question and this is regarding forum membership. I think I made it some time ago but here´s again.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>According to this document a forum member can be only a CA (issuing or root) or a browser but signing the IPR anyone can be a member, why this difference?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think this need a clarification. I don´t understand these 2 options of membership. And if both are valid (bylaws and IPR) why having two? What is the implication on doing one way or the other? Maybe is somewhere in the wiki but don´t see it<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Iñigo Barreira</span></b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Responsable del Área técnica<br><a href="mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net">i-barreira@izenpe.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>945067705</span><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=585 height=111 id="Imagen_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CDBD95.1A831F30"></span><span lang=ES-TRAD style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#888888;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'>ERNE! Baliteke mezu honen zatiren bat edo mezu osoa legez babestuta egotea. Mezua badu bere hartzailea. Okerreko helbidera heldu bada (helbidea gaizki idatzi, transmisioak huts egin) eman abisu igorleari, korreo honi erantzuna. KONTUZ!</span><span style='color:#888888;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#888888;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'>ATENCION! Este mensaje contiene informacion privilegiada o confidencial a la que solo tiene derecho a acceder el destinatario. Si usted lo recibe por error le agradeceriamos que no hiciera uso de la informacion y que se pusiese en contacto con el remitente.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> management-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:management-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>En nombre de </b>kirk_hall@trendmicro.com<br><b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 05 de noviembre de 2012 19:08<br><b>Para:</b> CABFPub (public@cabforum.org); management@cabforum.org<br><b>Asunto:</b> [cabfman] Edited CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v3)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I have now added a number of suggested edits to the previous Trend Micro document “Proposed CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v1)”, which I posted on October 15.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Ben posted a “(v2)” version of the Bylaws containing his suggested edits, so to avoid confusion I have labeled Trend Micro’s new version “Proposed CA-Browser Forum Bylaws (v3) Trend Micro 5 Nov 2012.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>As I indicated in yesterday’s email, I decided it would be inappropriate (1) to make significant changes to existing Forum rules that were not included in the Trend Micro governance proposal we voted on, or (2) to add totally new rules that were not included in the Trend Micro governance proposal we voted on. I did accept a number of suggested edits to improve new provisions that were part of the Trend Micro governance proposal that was approved by the Forum. All other proposed edits can be put forward by later ballot if and when the Bylaws are adopted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>All the changes are shown in Showing Changes mode with my explanations in comments. I also attach a clean version that includes all the edits.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>If you see problems with the language as edited, please let me know. I will wait to put forward the final proposed version of the Bylaws for discussion and a vote until after our Forum call this Thursday.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>There will clearly be some additional provisions we should add to the Bylaws if they are adopted, including more details of how Interested Parties participate in new Working Groups (e.g., the need for a separate IPR for Interested Parties that is focused on their Working Group participation only, allowing an MOU for those standards bodies that are not allowed to sign an IPR agreement with the Forum, etc.), coming up with general rules for admitting Observers to the Forum, and dealing with the other proposed edits that I did not include in this version 3. I plan to work with the most active commenters – chiefly Ben and Jeremy (although others are welcome) – to bring forward proposed Bylaws amendments in later weeks if the Bylaws are adopted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#0F243E'>Kirk R. 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