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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Erwann,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree that resumption (removeFromCRL) is allowed only in delta CRLs, but I don’t understand your interpretation of the RFC. If you’re using full CRLs and you allow suspension but not resumption, then either<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:20.25pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>(a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The cert must must remain suspended until it expires, or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:20.25pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>(b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The cert status can change from suspended (certificateHold) to valid<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If (a), why use certificateHold at all? Why not use one of the other revocation reasons?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If (b), it seems that most people who have commented in this thread believe that should not be allowed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Erwann Abalea<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 07, 2012 10:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> public@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Fwd: [pkix] Straw-poll on OCSP responses for non-revoked certificates.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Resumption is necessary in deltaCRLs, and is only allowed in deltaCRLs.<br>Suspension is allowed in every type of CRLs.<br>We produce deltaCRLs for some CAs but no public one.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Erwann ABALEA<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal>Le 07/11/2012 19:25, Rick Andrews a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When I looked at the RFC some time ago, it seemed that suspension and resumption were only allowed in delta CRLs. I don’t know of any CAs or browsers that support delta CRLs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Rick</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net">i-barreira@izenpe.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 07, 2012 12:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eddy_nigg@startcom.org">eddy_nigg@startcom.org</a>; <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Fwd: [pkix] Straw-poll on OCSP responses for non-revoked certificates.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On the CRL you can suspend a certificate (the response is revoked) and turned it back to a good status and this is perfectly valid.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Iñigo Barreira</span></b><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Responsable del Área técnica<br><a href="mailto:i-barreira@izenpe.net">i-barreira@izenpe.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>945067705</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=585 height=111 id="Imagen_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CDBCEC.FB4C0760"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.75pt'><span lang=ES style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#888888'>ERNE! Baliteke mezu honen zatiren bat edo mezu osoa legez babestuta egotea. Mezua badu bere hartzailea. Okerreko helbidera heldu bada (helbidea gaizki idatzi, transmisioak huts egin) eman abisu igorleari, korreo honi erantzuna. KONTUZ!</span><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#888888'><br></span><span lang=ES style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#888888'>ATENCION! Este mensaje contiene informacion privilegiada o confidencial a la que solo tiene derecho a acceder el destinatario. Si usted lo recibe por error le agradeceriamos que no hiciera uso de la informacion y que se pusiese en contacto con el remitente.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>De:</span></b><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>En nombre de </b>Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)<br><b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 31 de octubre de 2012 21:45<br><b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Fwd: [pkix] Straw-poll on OCSP responses for non-revoked certificates.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><br>On 10/31/2012 10:32 PM, From Ben Wilson: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If a modification of RFC 2560 allows an extension to change the meaning of a “1” response to something else. It was you who said “[it] might be good, …, either due to migration and update time or other reasons (out-of-sync cor whatever).”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=ES><br>Yes, that's why I think using "Unknown" is the correct response and not revoked for those. A revoked certificate can't be made valid ever after as long as it hasn't expired. And "Unknown" != "Good".<br><br>However once a certificate was marked as revoked, in my opinion a client doesn't have to check again ever.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Regards <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Signer: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Eddy Nigg, COO/CTO<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.startcom.org">StartCom Ltd.</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>XMPP: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="xmpp:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Blog: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://blog.startcom.org">Join the Revolution!</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Twitter: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://twitter.com/eddy_nigg">Follow Me</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Public mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>