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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That’s a good point, Eddy - and it echoes your previous question about ‘where do we draw the line?’<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My thinking, however, is that we need to explicitly define each allowable ‘user-defined’ alpha-2 designation within the BRs – as and when they crop up. That should give us granular oversight of the process and allow us to consider each new addition on a case-by-cases basis. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>An explicit guideline should also help avoid situations of non-uniformity, whereas a non-explicit guideline in the BRs could allow (for example) StartCom to decide on ‘XK’ as the alpha-2 for Kosovo, while Trustis assigns ‘XV’ for Kosovo, Comodo assigns ‘XO’, etc., etc. Each CA’s arbitrary designation might meet the requirements of a non-explicit guideline, but it wouldn’t provide the uniformity across CAs that is necessary for the Relying Parties.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<br>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 August 2012 12:27<br><b>Cc:</b> public@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] ISO 3166-1 country codes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 08/01/2012 02:04 PM, From William Madell: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So, the above should give us ‘centralised’ governance of the use of XK via the BRs (which is what you want) as well as providing its defined usage to Relying Parties (which is what Eddy wants) via the CP/CPS.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Well...if there must be exceptions, than an errata shouldn't mention any specific entity, but a general guideline about how to handle it (if at all). Otherwise why Kosovo and not Tibet, Basque, Chechnia and more...<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Regards <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Signer: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Eddy Nigg, COO/CTO<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.startcom.org">StartCom Ltd.</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>XMPP: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="xmpp:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Blog: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://blog.startcom.org">Join the Revolution!</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Twitter: <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://twitter.com/eddy_nigg">Follow Me</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=2 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>