<div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Hello Everyone,</p><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:16px"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Here are the draft <span class="gmail-il">minutes</span> of the meeting held on Tuesday, Oct 26'21.</p><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">(Apologies for the delay.)</p><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Thanks,</p><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Prachi</p><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><br></p><div>





<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>Attendees</b>:</p>
<ul class="gmail-ul1"><li>Ali Gholami</li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Ben Wilson</li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Clint Wilson</li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Corey Bonnell</li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Dustin Hollenback</li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Niko Carpenter<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Prachi Jain</li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Quan Nham</li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Tobios Josefowitz</li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Trevoli Ponds-White<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Tyler Myers<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></li>
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Tim Hollebeek</li>
</ul>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><br>
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<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>Anti-trust statement</b></p>
<ul class="gmail-ul1">
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Clint Wilson (Apple) read the anti-trust statement</li>
</ul>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><br>
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<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>Minute Taker</b></p>
<ul class="gmail-ul1">
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>Prachi Jain (Fastly)</li>
</ul>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><br>
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<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>Approve Previous Minutes</b></p>
<ul class="gmail-ul1">
<li class="gmail-li1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:9px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"></span>F2F teleconference minutes are not complete yet. Nothing to approve.</li>
</ul>
<p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:15px"><br></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>Quick Discussion</b></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Clint asked if we should move the minute to 5 mins after the usual time ??<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:15px"><br></p>
<p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:15px"><br></p>
<p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:15px"><b>Discussion around Netsec ReCharter</b></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Ben gave an update on the draft ballot. He is working on the comments that were posted and has also sent an email to Tim Crawford asking for inputs. Tim C didn’t like the idea of Netsec group modifying the documents of other WGs with this recharter. Tim Hollebeek asked what is the reasoning in favor of this.<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><br></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Tim H also expressed that he does not like the idea of Netsec group making changes to any docs without taking help from the concerned WGs like servercert or code sign.</p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Clint suggested that we can potentially change the recharter ballot to say that Netsec group will make changes to NCSSRs and will submit ballots to be approved by other groups.<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space">  </span>Tim H likes that model. Ben suggested that this will involve a process change. Other groups will need to take the recommendations from the netsec group and work on proposing the ballot. Tim H also mentioned that the netsec group can publish and maintain documents. He said that with the new approach, groups can adopt the changes at their own pace although it may have its own challenges, which are manageable. Clint will make some further suggestions on the ballot.</p>
<p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:15px"><br></p>
<p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:15px"><br></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><b>Discussion Regarding Inflight Ballots</b></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">It was decided that we are going to come back to some of the ballots after we make progress on risk assessment.</p>
<p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:15px"><br></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><a href="https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/210">Account Management</a>: Tobias is considering withdrawing it. There was some discussion around whether we should wait till the risk assessment is completed.</p>
<p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:15px"><br></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><a href="https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/323">SC50</a>; Clint sent it to servercert wg and no comments so far.</p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><br></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">SC51: This is ready to go to the servercert wg but Clint will wait for SC50 to move to the discussion period. Clint is still looking for official endorsers for this ballot.<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:15px"><b><br></b></p><p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";min-height:15px"><b>Closing thoughts:</b><br></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Feel free to populate the GitHub issues.<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"><br></span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"><br></span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"><br></span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"><br></span></p></div>-- <div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><img src="https://www.fastly.com/img/sig-@2x.png" width="96" height="50">  <div><strong style="color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px">Prachi Jain</strong><span style="color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px"> | Staff SRE-Foundation Trust Services | Dallas, TX</span><br style="color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px"><a href="https://fastly.com/" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px" target="_blank">fastly.com</a><span style="color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px"> | </span><a href="https://twitter.com/fastly" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px" target="_blank">@fastly</a><span style="color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px"> | </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/fastly/" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a><br></div></div></div></div></div>