<div dir="ltr"><div>Here is an updated redline based on today's discussion.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/095fc4f7992dbd186503a4b0ec4e643ae4ea1624...BenWilson-Mozilla:edf579f3b15e962720f6741b27bf3fefda88cf00">https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/095fc4f7992dbd186503a4b0ec4e643ae4ea1624...BenWilson-Mozilla:edf579f3b15e962720f6741b27bf3fefda88cf00</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 9:08 AM Ben Wilson <<a href="mailto:bwilson@mozilla.com">bwilson@mozilla.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Here is the URL with immutable links.</div><div><a href="https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/095fc4f7992dbd186503a4b0ec4e643ae4ea1624...BenWilson-Mozilla:f03fe22df70f4d4ff030c9b07467847dbf40baa8" target="_blank">https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/095fc4f7992dbd186503a4b0ec4e643ae4ea1624...BenWilson-Mozilla:f03fe22df70f4d4ff030c9b07467847dbf40baa8</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 8:53 AM Ben Wilson <<a href="mailto:bwilson@mozilla.com" target="_blank">bwilson@mozilla.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Awesome, thanks! <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 8:37 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <<a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2020-06-25 5:21 μ.μ., Ben Wilson
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div dir="ltr">Thanks!  But even with an immutable link, since it
        is a pull in my repository, do I need to archive it somehow for
        ballot history? Or does the immutable link take care of that?<br>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    The immutable link takes care of that. It's global (regardless of
    your repo or other repos). It's unique to the entire GitHub system<br>
    <br>
    Dimitris.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"><br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 4:23
          AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <<a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>>
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div> <br>
            <br>
            <div>On 2020-06-25 7:22 π.μ., Ben Wilson wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div dir="auto">I tried to follow it, to a certain extent,
                but I wasn't sure how to create the immutable link.  I
                stopped short of creating a pull request to the CABF
                master - it's a pull request to my own master.</div>
            </blockquote>
            <br>
            To find the proper hashes, you look at the last commit from
            each branch that you are trying to compare. It took me some
            time to figure it out myself :)<br>
            <br>
            Dimitris.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 24, 2020,
                  10:19 PM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <<a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                  <div> <br>
                    Hi Ben,<br>
                    <br>
                    Did you by any chance follow the process in <a href="https://wiki.cabforum.org/github_redline_guide" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.cabforum.org/github_redline_guide</a>?
                    If you did, I'd like to know if you found it useful,
                    clear/difficult to follow and so on so we can
                    improve it.<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    Thanks,<br>
                    Dimitris.<br>
                    <br>
                    <div>On 2020-06-25 5:09 π.μ., Ben Wilson via Netsec
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div>Here is the pull request and redlines for
                          this ballot - <a href="https://github.com/BenWilson-Mozilla/documents/pull/3/files" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/BenWilson-Mozilla/documents/pull/3/files</a></div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>or here is another comparison link:  <a href="https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/master...BenWilson-Mozilla:Zones-BR5.1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/master...BenWilson-Mozilla:Zones-BR5.1
                            <br>
                          </a></div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I haven't added in dates or endorsers yet,
                          but here is the draft ballot:  <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xlbg-0Hg1A3Px1Gj8XCQFSal5V_84hBjtVwohbXqiqM/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xlbg-0Hg1A3Px1Gj8XCQFSal5V_84hBjtVwohbXqiqM/edit?usp=sharing</a>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 1,
                          2020 at 1:11 PM Ben Wilson <<a href="mailto:bwilson@mozilla.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bwilson@mozilla.com</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                          <div dir="ltr">This isn't aimed at the Offline
                            CA ballot - it deals with whether we define
                            "CA equipment".  Sorry for the confusion.<br>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon,
                              Jun 1, 2020 at 1:05 PM Ponds-White,
                              Trevoli <<a href="mailto:trevolip@amazon.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">trevolip@amazon.com</a>>
                              wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                              <div lang="EN-US">
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Daymion
                                      from GoDaddy right? We had cut the
                                      scoping definitions out of a
                                      previous ballot because it made it
                                      too bloated with different topics
                                      and I thought we decided those
                                      should have their own ballot.</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">How
                                      do these changes overlap with the
                                      ballot that is clarifying offline
                                      CA requirements?</span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                                          Netsec <<a href="mailto:netsec-bounces@cabforum.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">netsec-bounces@cabforum.org</a>>
                                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben
                                          Wilson via Netsec<br>
                                          <b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 1,
                                          2020 11:23<br>
                                          <b>To:</b> Bruce Morton <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrustdatacard.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Bruce.Morton@entrustdatacard.com</a>><br>
                                          <b>Cc:</b> CABF Network
                                          Security List <<a href="mailto:netsec@cabforum.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">netsec@cabforum.org</a>><br>
                                          <b>Subject:</b> RE: [EXTERNAL]
                                          [cabf_netsec] [EXTERNAL]Re:
                                          "Zones" Ballot Endorsers</span></p>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <div>
                                    <table style="border-collapse:collapse" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0">
                                      <tbody>
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                                          <td style="width:842.35pt;border:1.5pt solid rgb(237,125,49);padding:0in 5.4pt;height:15.25pt" width="706" valign="top">
                                            <p><strong><span style="background:rgb(255,255,153) none repeat scroll 0% 0%">CAUTION</span></strong><span style="background:rgb(255,255,153) none repeat scroll 0% 0%">: This
                                                email originated from
                                                outside of the
                                                organization. Do not
                                                click links or open
                                                attachments unless you
                                                can confirm the sender
                                                and know the content is
                                                safe.</span></p>
                                          </td>
                                        </tr>
                                      </tbody>
                                    </table>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Also, in
                                          working on this, I recalled
                                          that Daymion when he was at
                                          Google had requested that we
                                          define the scope of the
                                          requirements.</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Excerpted
                                          below:</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt" id="gmail-m_4528316920837369747gmail-m_-7638115468555515711gmail-m_1141074404665943295gmail-m_8074079934600400719m_-6475004316674773850gmail-m_8427525313439756147gmail-m_-825837030032188148gmail-m_2512273482120699101gmail-docs-internal-guid-ca080c0f-7fff-dd5f-ae47-e85026593b82"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Add
                                            below section to the “Scope
                                            and Applicability” to define
                                            scope of PKI Trusted
                                            Environment and to read as
                                            follows:</span></p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The
                                            network security
                                            requirements apply to all
                                            system components included
                                            in or connected to the
                                            publicly trusted certificate
                                            authority (CA) environment.
                                            The CA environment is
                                            comprised of people,
                                            processes and technologies
                                            that store, process, or
                                            transmit CA data. “System
                                            components” include network
                                            devices, servers, hardware
                                            security modules (HSM),
                                            computing devices, and
                                            applications residing within
                                            the CA environment. Examples
                                            of system components
                                            include, but are not limited
                                            to the following:</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">a. 
                                              Systems that provide
                                            security services (for
                                            example, authentication
                                            servers), facilitate
                                            segmentation (for example,
                                            internal firewalls), or may
                                            impact the security of (for
                                            example, name resolution or
                                            web redirection servers).</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">b. 
                                              Virtualization components
                                            such as virtual machines,
                                            virtual switches/routers,
                                            virtual appliances, virtual
                                            applications/desktops, and
                                            hypervisors.</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">c. 
                                              Network components
                                            including but not limited to
                                            firewalls, switches,
                                            routers, network appliances,
                                            IPMI remote management
                                            cards, HSM and other
                                            security appliances.</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">d. 
                                              Server types including but
                                            not limited to web,
                                            application, database,
                                            authentication, mail, proxy,
                                            Network Time Protocol (NTP),
                                            and Domain Name System
                                            (DNS).</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">e. 
                                              Applications including all
                                            purchased and custom
                                            applications.</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">f. 
                                              Any other component or
                                            device located within the CA
                                            environment.</span></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May
                                          28, 2020 at 1:01 PM Ben Wilson
                                          <<a href="mailto:bwilson@mozilla.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bwilson@mozilla.com</a>>
                                          wrote:</p>
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                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I'll work
                                            on a re-draft, hopefully
                                            this afternoon, and
                                            re-circulate it.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu,
                                              May 28, 2020 at 12:53 PM
                                              Bruce Morton <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrustdatacard.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Bruce.Morton@entrustdatacard.com</a>>
                                              wrote:</p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                  would assume that if
                                                  we did not amend the
                                                  BRs, then it would
                                                  look like the security
                                                  requirements were
                                                  being reduced. So yes,
                                                  I think that the BRs
                                                  should be changed at
                                                  the same time.</p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Bruce.</p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                                  Ben Wilson <<a href="mailto:bwilson@mozilla.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bwilson@mozilla.com</a>>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday,
                                                  May 28, 2020 2:45 PM<br>
                                                  <b>To:</b> Bruce
                                                  Morton <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrustdatacard.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Bruce.Morton@entrustdatacard.com</a>><br>
                                                  <b>Cc:</b> Neil Dunbar
                                                  <<a href="mailto:ndunbar@trustcorsystems.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ndunbar@trustcorsystems.com</a>>;
                                                  CABF Network Security
                                                  List <<a href="mailto:netsec@cabforum.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">netsec@cabforum.org</a>><br>
                                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                                  [EXTERNAL]Re:
                                                  [cabf_netsec] "Zones"
                                                  Ballot Endorsers</p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">I'm
                                                    open to discussion
                                                    on this.  Would we
                                                    want to amend
                                                    section 5.1 of the
                                                    BRs with the same
                                                    ballot?</p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                      Thu, May 28, 2020
                                                      at 12:33 PM Bruce
                                                      Morton <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrustdatacard.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Bruce.Morton@entrustdatacard.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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                                                  <blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204)">
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi
                                                          Ben,</p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
                                                          for all the
                                                          work on this
                                                          ballot. I am
                                                          wondering if
                                                          we should try
                                                          to remove
                                                          physical
                                                          security and
                                                          physical
                                                          access
                                                          requirements
                                                          from the
                                                          NetSec
                                                          document.
                                                          Physical
                                                          Security
                                                          requirements
                                                          could be put
                                                          into BR 5.1 in
                                                          a section
                                                          called
                                                          Physical
                                                          Security
                                                          Controls. </p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">For
                                                          instance, item
                                                          1.c. states
                                                          “Maintain Root
                                                          CA Systems in
                                                          a Physically
                                                          Secure
                                                          Environment
                                                          and in an
                                                          offline state
                                                          or air-gapped
                                                          from all other
                                                          networks.”
                                                          This could be
                                                          changed so
                                                          that 1.c.
                                                          states
                                                          “Maintain Root
                                                          CA Systems in
                                                          an offline
                                                          state or
                                                          air-gapped
                                                          from all other
                                                          networks” and
                                                          BR 5.1 could
                                                          state
                                                          “Maintain CA
                                                          Systems in a
                                                          physically
                                                          secure
                                                          environment.”</p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">It
                                                          also seems
                                                          that now that
                                                          the old zone
                                                          definitions
                                                          have been
                                                          combined and
                                                          now Physically
                                                          Secure
                                                          Environment
                                                          now covers
                                                          both physical
                                                          and logical
                                                          environments.
                                                          If we
                                                          eliminate
                                                          physical
                                                          security, then
                                                          we could just
                                                          address
                                                          logical
                                                          security which
                                                          could be
                                                          better applied
                                                          to the NetSec
                                                          document.</p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">In
                                                          a future
                                                          ballot, we
                                                          might want to
                                                          push some of
                                                          the Trusted
                                                          Role
                                                          requirements
                                                          into BR 5.2.</p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,
                                                          Bruce.</p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                                          Netsec <<a href="mailto:netsec-bounces@cabforum.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">netsec-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> <b>On Behalf
                                                          Of </b>Neil
                                                          Dunbar via
                                                          Netsec<br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Tuesday, May
                                                          26, 2020 7:42
                                                          AM<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:netsec@cabforum.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">netsec@cabforum.org</a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b>
                                                          [EXTERNAL]Re:
                                                          [cabf_netsec]
                                                          "Zones" Ballot
                                                          Endorsers</p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:red">WARNING:</span></strong>
                                                          This email
                                                          originated
                                                          outside of
                                                          Entrust
                                                          Datacard.<br>
                                                          <strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:red">DO NOT
                                                          CLICK</span></strong>
                                                          links or
                                                          attachments
                                                          unless you
                                                          trust the
                                                          sender and
                                                          know the
                                                          content is
                                                          safe.</p>
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                                                        <p>I'm happy to
                                                          endorse, Ben.
                                                          Trev and David
                                                          also said they
                                                          would be good
                                                          to endorse the
                                                          ballot.</p>
                                                        <p>Neil</p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          13/05/2020
                                                          20:58, Ben
                                                          Wilson via
                                                          Netsec wrote:</p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          can't remember
                                                          whether there
                                                          were people
                                                          who
                                                          volunteered to
                                                          be endorsers
                                                          of the "Zones"
                                                          ballot.  </p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">See
                                                          below:</p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Ballot
                                                          and
                                                          Explanation -
                                                          <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xlbg-0Hg1A3Px1Gj8XCQFSal5V_84hBjtVwohbXqiqM/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xlbg-0Hg1A3Px1Gj8XCQFSal5V_84hBjtVwohbXqiqM/edit?usp=sharing</a></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Redlined
                                                          version of
                                                          NCSSRs - <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n6LPNN0WJY9Cdw5qOl2-fFzQxBiZtw-q/view?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n6LPNN0WJY9Cdw5qOl2-fFzQxBiZtw-q/view?usp=sharing</a></p>
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