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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link="#467886" vlink="#96607D" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks Dean. Yes, thatīs the idea and it has been included as the only topic for the Thursday call (unfortunately I wonīt attend it and I think Kiran will run it).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>De:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> Dean Coclin <dean.coclin@digicert.com> <br><b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 25 de marzo de 2024 20:24<br><b>Para:</b> Inigo Barreira <Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com>; Ben Wilson via Infrastructure <infrastructure@cabforum.org><br><b>Asunto:</b> RE: SC70 exclusion notice filled<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think those conclusions have to come from the PAG and unfortunately, not you. They may come to the same conclusions, but it’s better to be done that way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I would suggest convening a PAG post haste and work through the issues at hand.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>Dean <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E;mso-ligatures:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E;mso-ligatures:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> Infrastructure <<a href="mailto:infrastructure-bounces@cabforum.org">infrastructure-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Inigo Barreira via Infrastructure<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 25, 2024 8:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ben Wilson via Infrastructure <<a href="mailto:infrastructure@cabforum.org">infrastructure@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Infrastructure] SC70 exclusion notice filled<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Iīm sending this email to this group, knowing that this is maybe not the right group to discuss this (I didnīt want to send it first to the management list) but in where we have at least a lawyer (Ben) and an “interested party” which could be Wayne as heīs listed in the patents even not working now for GoDaddy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The issue is, as you have read in the email sent to the public list, that an exclusion notice has been filled against ballot SC70. And I have some questions, some regarding the procedure and some others regarding the exclusion notice itself and what we have in the wiki.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>As per the bylaws, section 2.4, item 9 (emphasis mine):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>If Exclusion Notice(s) are filed during the Review Period (as described in Section 4.3 of the IPR Policy), then <b>the results of the Initial Vote are automatically rescinded and deemed null and void</b>, and;<o:p></o:p></span></i></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none'>a. <b>A Patent Advisory Group (PAG) will be formed</b>, in accordance with Section 7 of the IPR Policy, to address the conflict. The PAG will make a conclusion as described in Section 7.3.2 of the IPR Policy, and communicate such conclusion to the rest of the Forum, using the Member Mail List and the Public Mail List; and<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none'>b. After the PAG provides its conclusion, if the proposer and endorsers decide to proceed with the Draft Guidelines Ballot, and:<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><ol start=1 type=1><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo3;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>The proposer and endorsers do not make any changes to the Draft Guidelines Ballot, such ballot must go through the steps described in Sections 2.4(2) through (4) above, replacing the “Initial Vote” with a “Second Vote.” If a Draft Guidelines Ballot passes the Second Vote, then the results of the Second Vote are deemed to be final and approved. Draft Guidelines then become either Final Guidelines or Final Maintenance Guidelines, as designated in the Draft Guidelines Ballot. The Chair will notify the Public Mail List of the approval, as well as update the public website of Final Guidelines and Final Maintenance Guidelines; or<o:p></o:p></span></i></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo3;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>The proposer and endorsers make changes to the Draft Guidelines Ballot, a new Draft Guidelines Ballot must be proposed, and must go through the steps described in Sections 2.3(1) through (9) above.<o:p></o:p></span></i></li></ol></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none'>So, independently of the exclusion notice, the ballot is considered null, thereīs no new TLS BRs version and a PAG need to be formed. I added this topic to the WG call agenda for next Thursday (I wonīt be running the call because Iīm on holidays for Easter) and I was going to send an email to the SC public list indicating that the ballot is null (BTW, we donīt have any kind of template to make such communication). Is this the right interpretation of the bylaws?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none'>OTOH, about the exclusion notice itself. This is what Iīve found that would like to share.<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>This exclusion notice contains 7 patents<o:p></o:p></span></li><ul type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>#1 (Method for a web site with a proxy domain name registration to receive a secure socket layer certificate): Created in 2004 (there were no BRs at that time), granted in 2010 and expires in 2017<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>#2 (Digital identity registration): Created in 2010, granted in 2011 and expires in 2027<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>#3 (Methods and systems for dynamic updates of digital certificates via subscription): Created in 2004 (there were no BRs at that time), granted in 2013 and expires in 2030<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>#4 (Website secure certificate status determination via partner browser plugin): Created in 2010, granted in 2015 and expires in 2033<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>#5 (Systems for determining website secure certificate status via partner browser plugin): Created in 2010, granted in 2015 and expires in 2033<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>#6 (Determining website secure certificate status via partner browser plugin) : Created in 2015, granted in 2017 and expires in 2031<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>#7 (Method and system for managing secure custom domains): Created in 2017, granted in 2018 and expires in 2037. This was initially filed and assigned to Lantirn INC and later to the Bank of Canada. GoDaddy is not listed anywhere.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>All these 7 patents include a “no license granted” under column License Grant Election Made<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>All of them make a reference to the EVGs, but ballot SC70 does not touch the EVGs but the TLS BRs<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>In the wiki </span><span style='color:black'><a href="https://wiki.cabforum.org/books/forum/page/ipr-policy-exclusion-notices"><span lang=EN-US>IPR Policy Exclusion N... | CABF Wiki (cabforum.org)</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>, thereīre some exclusion notices filled but:<o:p></o:p></span></li><ul type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>Patent #1 declared in this PDF is already listed in the wiki but with a slightly different number but under “willing to license” it says “unstated”. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='background:white;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:4.5pt 6.0pt 4.5pt 6.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:inherit;color:#444444'><a href="https://wiki.cabforum.org/books/smime-certificate-wg/page/godaddy" title=godaddy><span style='border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;text-decoration:none'>GoDaddy</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:4.5pt 6.0pt 4.5pt 6.0pt;box-sizing: border-box;outline-color: var(--color-primary);outline-width: 1px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch: inherit;font-size:inherit;font-optical-sizing: inherit;font-kerning: inherit;font-feature-settings: inherit;font-variation-settings: inherit;min-width: 10px;word-break:break-word;overflow:auto'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:inherit;color:#444444'>31-July-2012<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:4.5pt 6.0pt 4.5pt 6.0pt;box-sizing: border-box;outline-color: var(--color-primary);outline-width: 1px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch: inherit;font-size:inherit;font-optical-sizing: inherit;font-kerning: inherit;font-feature-settings: inherit;font-variation-settings: inherit;min-width: 10px;word-break:break-word;overflow:auto'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:inherit;color:#444444'>US Pat. No.7,702,902<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:4.5pt 6.0pt 4.5pt 6.0pt;box-sizing: border-box;outline-color: var(--color-primary);outline-width: 1px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch: inherit;font-size:inherit;font-optical-sizing: inherit;font-kerning: inherit;font-feature-settings: inherit;font-variation-settings: inherit;min-width: 10px;word-break:break-word;overflow:auto'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:inherit;color:#444444'>Unspecified<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:4.5pt 6.0pt 4.5pt 6.0pt;box-sizing: border-box;outline-color: var(--color-primary);outline-width: 1px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch: inherit;font-size:inherit;font-optical-sizing: inherit;font-kerning: inherit;font-feature-settings: inherit;font-variation-settings: inherit;min-width: 10px;word-break:break-word;overflow:auto'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:inherit;color:#444444'>Method for a web site with a proxy domain name registration to receive a secure socket layer certificate<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:4.5pt 6.0pt 4.5pt 6.0pt;box-sizing: border-box;outline-color: var(--color-primary);outline-width: 1px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch: inherit;font-size:inherit;font-optical-sizing: inherit;font-kerning: inherit;font-feature-settings: inherit;font-variation-settings: inherit;min-width: 10px;word-break:break-word;overflow:auto'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:inherit;color:#444444'>Unstated<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>Regarding the other patents I think those are new ones.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>In the wiki list, there are some repeated (i.e., Generating PKI email accounts on a web-based email system) with different patent numbers, which I donīt know if itīs an error or on purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>Clicking on the PDF for the “GoDaddy patent exclusion notice” it goes nowhere, thereīs an error because the page is not found. Same happens when you go to Discloser column (first column) and click on GoDaddy<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none'>With all of this, and of course, waiting for the conclusion from the PAG, Iīd like to provide some thoughts and a preliminary opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>Can this exclusion notice file be considered wrong due to referencing the EVGs instead of the BRs which is what SC70 is touching?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>Can this exclusion notice file considered invalid because of the inclusion of a patent (#7) not related to GoDaddy?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>Whatīs the reason for this exclusion notice in general, considering is indicated the EVGs and not the BRs? Just to add them to the wiki? <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none'>In the wiki thereīre no reasons stated for example for #1 but in this PDF file is indicated that no license granted, what to do in this case?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>