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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/3/2024 10:39 π.μ., Inigo Barreira
wrote:<br>
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I don't understand how you gave this interpretation. Your email is
out of scope of the <a
href="https://cabforum.org/about/information/infrastructure-committee/">infrastructure
SC charter</a>. However, I will try to answer your questions as
best as I can.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">As indicated at the beginning I know this topic
is not related to the infrastructure group as such, </span></p>
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Exactly.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">but there are things that need to be discussed,
like templates, change the bylaws (i.e., which public group?
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Discussions for changing the Bylaws must take place at the
forum-level public mailing list. The infrastructure SC is more
oriented to technical tasks, not policy. It cannot answer questions
about possible interpretations of the Bylaws. We have the
Forum-level public list for that.<br>
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The last part (i.e., which public group) is not very clear to me.
What is the concern or the question?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">The WG or the forum public list?), PAG
formation (at the WG level or general?)</span></p>
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If this is a question for how to interpret the Bylaws or the IPR
policy, it needs to be asked at the Forum-level public list.<br>
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lang="EN-US">, wiki info, etc. </span></p>
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I am not sure I understand what you mean by "wiki info".<br>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">This is just a list of things to discuss, and
not all these are for the infrastructure (for example, the
change of the bylaws if needed) but some can be considered
as a new adding to the handbook to know how to deal with
these matters.</span></p>
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Since the infrastructure SC is a subset the Forum-level, a simple
way to approach this is that if you have a list of questions, out of
which some are in scope of the infrastructure SC and some are not,
you must send all the questions to the Forum-level list. This will
give the opportunity for all Members (including the infrastructure
SC members) to discuss these questions in one mailing list. <br>
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If you are not certain whether a question is or is not in scope of
the infrastructure SC, you can "fail-close" and send to the
Forum-level list.<br>
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Does that clarify things at least about the scoping of the WGs/SCs?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">De:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">
Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA)
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr"><dzacharo@harica.gr></a> <br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 25 de marzo de 2024 21:31<br>
<b>Para:</b> Dean Coclin
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com"><dean.coclin@digicert.com></a>; Inigo Barreira
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com"><Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com></a>; Ben Wilson via
Infrastructure <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:infrastructure@cabforum.org"><infrastructure@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Infrastructure] SC70 exclusion
notice filled<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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not click links or open attachments unless you recognize
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These matters should be discussed at the respective WG. The
Infrastructure subcommittee is not related with this
exclusion notice.<br>
<br>
Inigo, I suggest you forward these messages to the
servercert-wg mailing list and continue the discussion
there.<br>
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<br>
Thank you,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 25/3/2024 9:24 μ.μ., Dean Coclin via
Infrastructure wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I think
those conclusions have to come from the PAG and
unfortunately, not you. They may come to the same
conclusions, but it’s better to be done that way.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I would
suggest convening a PAG post haste and work through the
issues at hand.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
Dean </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">
Infrastructure <a
href="mailto:infrastructure-bounces@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><infrastructure-bounces@cabforum.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Inigo Barreira via
Infrastructure<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 25, 2024 8:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ben Wilson via Infrastructure <a
href="mailto:infrastructure@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><infrastructure@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Infrastructure] SC70 exclusion
notice filled</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I´m sending this email to this group,
knowing that this is maybe not the right group to discuss
this (I didn´t want to send it first to the management
list) but in where we have at least a lawyer (Ben) and an
“interested party” which could be Wayne as he´s listed in
the patents even not working now for GoDaddy.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The issue is, as you have read in the
email sent to the public list, that an exclusion notice
has been filled against ballot SC70. And I have some
questions, some regarding the procedure and some others
regarding the exclusion notice itself and what we have in
the wiki.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As per the bylaws, section 2.4, item 9
(emphasis mine):<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:#333333;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo3;background:white"><i><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">If
Exclusion Notice(s) are filed during the Review
Period (as described in Section 4.3 of the IPR
Policy), then <b>the results of the Initial Vote
are automatically rescinded and deemed null and
void</b>, and;</span></i><o:p></o:p></li>
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style="mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white"><i><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">a.
<b>A Patent Advisory Group (PAG) will be formed</b>,
in accordance with Section 7 of the IPR Policy, to
address the conflict. The PAG will make a conclusion
as described in Section 7.3.2 of the IPR Policy, and
communicate such conclusion to the rest of the Forum,
using the Member Mail List and the Public Mail List;
and</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white"><i><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">b.
After the PAG provides its conclusion, if the proposer
and endorsers decide to proceed with the Draft
Guidelines Ballot, and:</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo3;background:white"><i><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">The
proposer and endorsers do not make any changes to
the Draft Guidelines Ballot, such ballot must go
through the steps described in Sections 2.4(2)
through (4) above, replacing the “Initial Vote”
with a “Second Vote.” If a Draft Guidelines Ballot
passes the Second Vote, then the results of the
Second Vote are deemed to be final and approved.
Draft Guidelines then become either Final
Guidelines or Final Maintenance Guidelines, as
designated in the Draft Guidelines Ballot. The
Chair will notify the Public Mail List of the
approval, as well as update the public website of
Final Guidelines and Final Maintenance Guidelines;
or</span></i><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo3;background:white"><i><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">The
proposer and endorsers make changes to the Draft
Guidelines Ballot, a new Draft Guidelines Ballot
must be proposed, and must go through the steps
described in Sections 2.3(1) through (9) above.</span></i><o:p></o:p></li>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white"><span
style="color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">So,
independently of the exclusion notice, the ballot is
considered null, there´s no new TLS BRs version and a
PAG need to be formed. I added this topic to the WG call
agenda for next Thursday (I won´t be running the call
because I´m on holidays for Easter) and I was going to
send an email to the SC public list indicating that the
ballot is null (BTW, we don´t have any kind of template
to make such communication). Is this the right
interpretation of the bylaws?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white"><span
style="color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">OTOH,
about the exclusion notice itself. This is what I´ve
found that would like to share.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">This
exclusion notice contains 7 patents</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
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<ol type="1" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">#1
(Method for a web site with a proxy domain name
registration to receive a secure socket layer
certificate): Created in 2004 (there were no BRs at
that time), granted in 2010 and expires in 2017</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">#2
(Digital identity registration): Created in 2010,
granted in 2011 and expires in 2027</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">#3
(Methods and systems for dynamic updates of digital
certificates via subscription): Created in 2004
(there were no BRs at that time), granted in 2013
and expires in 2030</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">#4
(Website secure certificate status determination via
partner browser plugin): Created in 2010, granted in
2015 and expires in 2033</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">#5
(Systems for determining website secure certificate
status via partner browser plugin): Created in 2010,
granted in 2015 and expires in 2033</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">#6
(Determining website secure certificate status via
partner browser plugin) : Created in 2015, granted
in 2017 and expires in 2031</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">#7
(Method and system for managing secure custom
domains): Created in 2017, granted in 2018 and
expires in 2037. This was initially filed and
assigned to Lantirn INC and later to the Bank of
Canada. GoDaddy is not listed anywhere.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
</ol>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">All
these 7 patents include a “no license granted” under
column License Grant Election Made</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">All
of them make a reference to the EVGs, but ballot SC70
does not touch the EVGs but the TLS BRs</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">In
the wiki </span><span style="color:black"><a
href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.cabforum.org%2Fbooks%2Fforum%2Fpage%2Fipr-policy-exclusion-notices&data=05%7C02%7CInigo.Barreira%40sectigo.com%7C63ecc355d89d43f0aa7208dc4d0a78ac%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638469954591537768%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=D0YH%2B9nNcF6XJ7sZzeZfc8ZxKhWcHih%2B2Hoc4bIu93w%3D&reserved=0"
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Exclusion N... | CABF Wiki (cabforum.org)</span></a></span><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">,
there´re some exclusion notices filled but:</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">Patent
#1 declared in this PDF is already listed in the
wiki but with a slightly different number but under
“willing to license” it says “unstated”. </span><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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No.7,702,902</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:inherit;color:#444444">Method for a
web site with a proxy domain name registration
to receive a secure socket layer certificate</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">Regarding
the other patents I think those are new ones.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">In
the wiki list, there are some repeated (i.e.,
Generating PKI email accounts on a web-based email
system) with different patent numbers, which I don´t
know if it´s an error or on purpose.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">Clicking
on the PDF for the “GoDaddy patent exclusion notice”
it goes nowhere, there´s an error because the page
is not found. Same happens when you go to Discloser
column (first column) and click on GoDaddy</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white"><span
style="color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">With
all of this, and of course, waiting for the conclusion
from the PAG, I´d like to provide some thoughts and a
preliminary opinion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">Can
this exclusion notice file be considered wrong due to
referencing the EVGs instead of the BRs which is what
SC70 is touching?</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">Can
this exclusion notice file considered invalid because
of the inclusion of a patent (#7) not related to
GoDaddy?</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">What´s
the reason for this exclusion notice in general,
considering is indicated the EVGs and not the BRs?
Just to add them to the wiki? </span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7;background:white"><span
style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">In
the wiki there´re no reasons stated for example for #1
but in this PDF file is indicated that no license
granted, what to do in this case?</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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style="color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">Thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:#333333;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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