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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/3/2024 4:51 μ.μ., Paul van
Brouwershaven via Infrastructure wrote:<br>
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"Prevent the downloading of recordings", I think this would be
a good thing to do:</span></div>
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I enabled this option and set the retention to 180 days for now (the
default was 2160 days). See below.<br>
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<div><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Should
we include something like this in the email template:<br>
<br>
</span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>The
recording of CA/Browser Forum meetings are solely intended
for the following purposes:</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>
- To provide an opportunity for members to watch/listen
back to the discussions (e.g., for those </i></span><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>who
were unable to attend the meeting</i></span><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>).</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>
- To facilitate the taking of accurate meeting minutes.</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i><br>
</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>It's
strictly prohibited to:</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>
- Distribute or grant access to the recordings to any
individuals who are not members of the CA/Browser Forum. </i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>
- Publishing or distributing excerpts, quotations, or
transcripts of the recordings to non-members without
explicit consent from the participating forum members and
the forum chair.</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i><br>
</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>Recordings
will be retained for a period of 60 days following the date
of the related meeting. After this period, recordings will
be automatically deleted.</i></span></div>
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I propose some changes to the email template: <br>
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<br>
</span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>The
recording of CA/Browser Forum meetings are solely intended for
the following purposes:</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>
- To provide an opportunity for </i></span><font
color="#0000ff"><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><i>authorized
</i></span></font><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>members
</i></span><font color="#0000ff"><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><i>(i.e.
</i></span><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><i>those
</i></span><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>who
would otherwise be allowed to attend the meeting</i></span><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><i>)</i></span></font><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>
to watch/listen back to the discussions<br>
</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>
- To facilitate the taking of accurate meeting minutes.</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i><br>
</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>It's
strictly prohibited to:</i></span></div>
<div class="elementToProof" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px;"><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>
- Distribute or grant access to the recordings to any
individuals who are not members of the CA/Browser Forum. </i></span></div>
<div class="elementToProof" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px;"><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>
- Publishing or distributing excerpts, quotations, or
transcripts of the recordings to non-members without explicit
consent from the participating forum members and the forum
chair.</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i><br>
</i></span></div>
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style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>Recordings
will be retained for a period of </i></span><font
color="#0000ff"><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><i>90</i></span></font><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>
days following the date of the related meeting. After this
period, recordings will be automatically deleted. </i></span><font
color="#0000ff"><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><i>Recordings
may be deleted after the related meeting minutes are
approved by the Forum or the corresponding Working Group or
Subcommittee.</i></span><span
style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><i><br>
</i></span></font></div>
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Thoughts?<br>
<br>
I can add this topic to the agenda of the Forum Teleconference
unless people would prefer to have a discussion at the
Infrastructure subcommittee first.<br>
<br>
<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" id="divRplyFwdMsg"><span
style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>From:</b> Infrastructure
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:infrastructure-bounces@cabforum.org"><infrastructure-bounces@cabforum.org></a> on behalf of Dean
Coclin via Infrastructure <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:infrastructure@cabforum.org"><infrastructure@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 7, 2024 14:59<br>
<b>To:</b> Martijn Katerbarg
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com"><martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:infrastructure@cabforum.org">infrastructure@cabforum.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:infrastructure@cabforum.org"><infrastructure@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Infrastructure] Meeting
recordings</span>
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<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">Is there anything that prevents those
recipients from downloading and storing those recordings
indefinitely?</span></p>
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style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(72, 86, 94);"> </span></p>
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style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(72, 86, 94);"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(72, 86, 94);"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p>
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style="padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(225, 225, 225);">
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> Martijn
Katerbarg <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com"><martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 7, 2024 8:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dean Coclin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com"><dean.coclin@digicert.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:infrastructure@cabforum.org">infrastructure@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Meeting recordings</span></p>
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<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"> </p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;">Dean,</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;">During the F2F it was discussed to
distribute the recordings to the management list for all
members to listen back. Several members have expressed this
desire and there was consensus in doing so as long as the
recordings are removed after a certain time.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;">Regards,<br>
<br>
Martijn</span></p>
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style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
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<p
style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;"><b>From:
</b>Dean Coclin <<a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com"
id="OWA6c454338-9d58-0379-89cf-f6a7e5a1d0a4"
class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="linkonly"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
moz-do-not-send="true">dean.coclin@digicert.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 7 March 2024 at 14:53<br>
<b>To: </b>Martijn Katerbarg <<a
href="mailto:martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com"
id="OWAc821dd3d-1a97-10d5-926a-5d4493a503b7"
class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="linkonly"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
moz-do-not-send="true">martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com</a>>,
<a href="mailto:infrastructure@cabforum.org"
id="OWAa208fe33-d5d1-bdd1-d350-8781c7e0f730"
class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="linkonly"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
moz-do-not-send="true">
infrastructure@cabforum.org</a> <<a
href="mailto:infrastructure@cabforum.org"
id="OWA89777c13-31ee-4f54-f817-2efc1aa07163"
class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="linkonly"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
moz-do-not-send="true">infrastructure@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: Meeting recordings</span></p>
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<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">Recordings are only used by the
minute takers to assist in that task. After that they should
be destroyed.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">I’m currently receiving recording
emails after the CSCWG and the regular CABF meetings</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(1, 116, 195);"><b>Dean
Coclin</b></span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(72, 86, 94);"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p>
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<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> Infrastructure
<<a href="mailto:infrastructure-bounces@cabforum.org"
id="OWAb899fc56-c85c-4aae-a6b3-6d0a34f02406"
class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="linkonly"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
moz-do-not-send="true">infrastructure-bounces@cabforum.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martijn Katerbarg via Infrastructure<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 7, 2024 4:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:infrastructure@cabforum.org"
id="OWAa47dd82b-a0c7-9042-62ed-2ec6819af900"
class="OWAAutoLink moz-txt-link-freetext"
data-loopstyle="linkonly"
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
moz-do-not-send="true">
infrastructure@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Infrastructure] Meeting recordings</span></p>
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<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;">All,<br>
<br>
I’m pretty much ready to launch a scheduled command to
automatically send out meeting recordings to the CABF
management list after each teleconference. A screenshot of
the template used is attached here (with obfuscated
details).</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;">Do we want to pass this by the
Management list or Forum call prior to enabling?</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"><br>
Another question that needs answering before we enable this:
currently recordings are not auto-removed. We discussed
enabling auto-removal, and I believe we’ve settled on 60
days. Are we all satisfied with that?</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;">As an alternative, the WebEx API
does allow for direct download of recordings. So my final
question here is: If we have storage available, would we
want to download a copy of each recording for archival and
“just in case” purposes?</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;">Regards,<br>
<br>
Martijn</span></p>
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