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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#467886" vlink="#96607D" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-IN>Final Minutes for CSCWG Call 25 Jul 2024<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-IN>Agenda:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-IN><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-IN>Roll Call<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-IN>Antitrust reminder<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-IN>Approve prior meeting minutes – June 13<sup>th</sup>, June 27<sup>th</sup> (Brianca), July 11<sup>th</sup> (Ian)?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-IN>IPR review: CSC-25 Remove EV Guideline References (Dimitris)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-IN>IPR review: CSC-26 Time-stamp Requirements update (Martijn)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-IN>Simplifying EV (Tim)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-IN>Fall elections<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-IN>Other business<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-IN>Next meeting – Aug 8<sup>th</sup> <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-IN>Adjourn<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-IN><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-IN>Attendees:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>Brian Winters (Identrust), Brianca Martin (Amazon), Bruce Morton (Entrust), Dean Coclin, (DigiCert), Ian McMillan (Microsoft), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Mohit Kumar (GlobalSign), Puneet (EncryptionConsulting.com), Rebecca Kelley (SSL.com), Richard Kisley (IBM), Scott Rea (eMudhra), Thomas Zermeno (SSL.com)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-IN>Minutes:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>Dean read the note well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>Meeting minutes for June 13, 2024 Meeting (Rebecca Kelley) posted – Approved unanimously.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>Meeting minutes for June 27, 2024 Meeting (Brianca Martin) yet to be posted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>Meeting minutes for July 11, 2024 Meeting (Ian McMillan) posted – Approved unanimously.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>IPR review Ballot CSC-25 is on-going – conclusion date is August 1, 2024.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>IPR review Ballot CSC-26 is on-going – conclusion date is August 1, 2024.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>Simplifying EV : Tim H is at IETF (along with a lot of other folks who are normally on this call), so we will return to this item on a future call, when Tim is available. Related question on Microsoft HLK Certification requiring EV cert – posed to Ian for clarification.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>[Ian] There is a requirement today for registration with EV cert, but the program is reviewing that, and we anticipate an outcome in the August time frame.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>Elections for chair and vice chair positions will take place in October. Nomination process outlined. Dean is not eligible as Chair again, but Bruce as VC has standing for automatic nomination. Bruce accepts that nomination. Other nominations for Chair will be open in August. VC nominations are open now. Ian nominates Martijn Katerbarg as Vice Chair, seconded by Thomas (SSL.com). Martin was not on call to accept. Bruce nominates Dean as VC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>Dean to add the elections process outlined by Dimitris to the agenda for the next meeting and start the formal nomination process in August.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>Other Business: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ian has created draft of Ballot to change max validity (reduction to 15 months), but just wants to settle on effective date to be mentioned in the ballot. April 30, 2025 effective date was agreed, will post to list after 1 Aug.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>PCIHSM requirements : Ian said MSFT folks feel using an OR statement (FIPS140-2 level 2 or PCIHSM) doesn’t make much sense since all Commerce HSMs already meet FIPS. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>[Richard] FIPS taking a long time to get certifications approved for HSMs in the transition to FIPS140-3 so FIPS compliance is beginning to become difficult to maintain. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>[Ian] MSFT is holding firm at this point, and still requiring FIPS. No disagreement on required levels: Subscriber is Level 2, Signing Service or CAs are Level 3. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>[Puneet] Certification of device is one thing, but it also depends on how it’s been implemented as to whether it meets that Level.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IN>Meeting adjourned. Next meeting August 8<sup>th</sup>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3;mso-ligatures:none'>Dean Coclin <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3;mso-ligatures:none'>CSCWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E;mso-ligatures:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E;mso-ligatures:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>