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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Dean,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Yes, and now I need to figure out how Outlook dropped the meeting. I’m sure it is my fault somewhere…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;color:black">Richard Kisley<br>
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Firmware & Security Architect, <br>
IBM Senior Technical Staff Member, Master Inventor<br>
Payment Card Industry Professional (PCIP)<br>
IBM Cryptographic Technology Development </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="http://www.ibm.com/security/cryptocards/" title="http://www.ibm.com/security/cryptocards/"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif">http://www.ibm.com/security/cryptocards/</span></a></span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Dean Coclin <dean.coclin@digicert.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, January 8, 2024 at 5:53</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Richard Kisley <kisley@us.ibm.com>, cscwg-public@cabforum.org <cscwg-public@cabforum.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] RE: Consider PCI-HSM certification for Code signing HSMs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Richard,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Should we add this to the agenda for this week’s call?<br>
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Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dean</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3">Dean Coclin
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E">Sr. Director Business Development</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E">M 1.781.789.8686</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Cscwg-public <cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Kisley via Cscwg-public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 2, 2024 5:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cscwg-public@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Cscwg-public] Consider PCI-HSM certification for Code signing HSMs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you for the opportunity to discuss this topic. My apologies for not sending this sooner, EOY work (day job) and the holidays took over my time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">My AOB question on 12/14 was: ‘would the group consider adding PCI HSM as an acceptable certification for Code Signing workloads?’</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find attached the PCI HSM v4 pdf from the PCI SSC documents page (<a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/www.pcisecuritystandards.org/document_library/___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzozZGY5OGQ5NmZiZTQwNzMwYTBjZTBjYTNhY2M1NWQxMTo2OmEwZGI6ODc2MzRlMWNhZDNmYmQ5MTI3OWVmMjkwYTE5ZDc2NGU3ODQ4NDhjZmQ4Mjc1OTBmYWY1ZDdkMzdkYmUzYjQ5YjpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/document_library/">https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/document_library/</a>,
filter by ‘PTS’). Note that in this location you have also the ‘FAQs’, which “enhance” understanding of various topics.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">My reasons for suggesting this:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">PCI (PTS) HSM is a robust program for HSM evaluation in the payment security space.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The financial services world, while having some unique requirements (in particular for PKI), is in my opinion not so different for overall device validation</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">FIPS 140-3 & FIPS 140-2 (now closed) CMVP programs have a long queue that is delaying products by well over a year</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">CC, while valuable in many markets, is not universal</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Adding PCI-HSM closes the loop across the main HSM evaluation regimes</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;color:black">Richard Kisley<br>
____________________________________________________________________<br>
Firmware & Security Architect, <br>
IBM Senior Technical Staff Member, Master Inventor<br>
Payment Card Industry Professional (PCIP)<br>
IBM Cryptographic Technology Development </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http:/www.ibm.com/security/cryptocards/___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzozZGY5OGQ5NmZiZTQwNzMwYTBjZTBjYTNhY2M1NWQxMTo2OjdkNzg6ODlhM2QyN2RlMzg4NGRiMzVhYTg2NzkyNGI5ODk5MDVkZjgwMmRkM2I4NGQ0YzY4NGYzZDI4MDQxZTEyZmIwOTpoOkY" title="http://www.ibm.com/security/cryptocards/"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif">http://www.ibm.com/security/cryptocards/</span></a></span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="mailto:kisley@us.ibm.com" title="mailto:kisley@us.ibm.com"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;color:#F8481C">kisley@us.ibm.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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