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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Richard,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Should we add this to the agenda for this week’s call?<br><br>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dean<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3'>Dean Coclin <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E'>Sr. Director Business Development<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E'>M 1.781.789.8686<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><img width=129 height=37 style='width:1.3472in;height:.3888in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01DA425B.5E7C9110"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> Cscwg-public <cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Kisley via Cscwg-public<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 2, 2024 5:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> cscwg-public@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Cscwg-public] Consider PCI-HSM certification for Code signing HSMs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thank you for the opportunity to discuss this topic. My apologies for not sending this sooner, EOY work (day job) and the holidays took over my time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>My AOB question on 12/14 was: ‘would the group consider adding PCI HSM as an acceptable certification for Code Signing workloads?’<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Please find attached the PCI HSM v4 pdf from the PCI SSC documents page (<a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/www.pcisecuritystandards.org/document_library/___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzozZGY5OGQ5NmZiZTQwNzMwYTBjZTBjYTNhY2M1NWQxMTo2OmEwZGI6ODc2MzRlMWNhZDNmYmQ5MTI3OWVmMjkwYTE5ZDc2NGU3ODQ4NDhjZmQ4Mjc1OTBmYWY1ZDdkMzdkYmUzYjQ5YjpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/document_library/">https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/document_library/</a>, filter by ‘PTS’). Note that in this location you have also the ‘FAQs’, which “enhance” understanding of various topics.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>My reasons for suggesting this:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>PCI (PTS) HSM is a robust program for HSM evaluation in the payment security space.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The financial services world, while having some unique requirements (in particular for PKI), is in my opinion not so different for overall device validation<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>FIPS 140-3 & FIPS 140-2 (now closed) CMVP programs have a long queue that is delaying products by well over a year<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>CC, while valuable in many markets, is not universal<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Adding PCI-HSM closes the loop across the main HSM evaluation regimes<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande";color:black'>Richard Kisley<br>____________________________________________________________________<br>Firmware & Security Architect, <br>IBM Senior Technical Staff Member, Master Inventor<br>Payment Card Industry Professional (PCIP)<br>IBM Cryptographic Technology Development </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http:/www.ibm.com/security/cryptocards/___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzozZGY5OGQ5NmZiZTQwNzMwYTBjZTBjYTNhY2M1NWQxMTo2OjdkNzg6ODlhM2QyN2RlMzg4NGRiMzVhYTg2NzkyNGI5ODk5MDVkZjgwMmRkM2I4NGQ0YzY4NGYzZDI4MDQxZTEyZmIwOTpoOkY" title="http://www.ibm.com/security/cryptocards/"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande"'>http://www.ibm.com/security/cryptocards/</span></a></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande";color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><a href="mailto:kisley@us.ibm.com" title="mailto:kisley@us.ibm.com"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande";color:#F8481C'>kisley@us.ibm.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>