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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Agreed, that is a very good clarification.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks,<br>
Ian <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> Cscwg-public <cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Morton via Cscwg-public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 13, 2023 9:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Martijn Katerbarg <martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com>; cscwg-public@cabforum.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Cscwg-public] Ballot CSC-21: Signing Service Update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Hi Martijn,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">I think this is a good clarification to separate the Signing Service from the Subscriber.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Thanks, Bruce.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> Martijn Katerbarg <<a href="mailto:martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com">martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 13, 2023 9:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bruce Morton <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrust.com">Bruce.Morton@entrust.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: Ballot CSC-21: Signing Service Update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Bruce,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I have a concern with the $B!H(BSigning Service$B!I(B definition:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">$B!H(B**Signing Service**: An organization that generates the Key Pair and securely manages the Private Key associated with a Subscriber's Code Signing Certificate.$B!I(B<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For subscribers that generate their own private keys and use these for signing (i.e., they manage them) I$B!G(Bm inclined to say that this would define them as a Signing Service.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Should we reword this to $B!H(BAn organization other than the Subscriber or any of its Affiliates, that generates the Key Pair and securely manages the Private Key associated with a Subscriber's
Code Signing Certificate$B!I(B?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<br>
<br>
Martijn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Cscwg-public <<a href="mailto:cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org">cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> on behalf of Bruce Morton via Cscwg-public <<a href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 12 October 2023 at 21:59<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a> <<a href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Cscwg-public] Ballot CSC-21: Signing Service Update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Purpose of the Ballot</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" id="bkmrk-this-ballot-updates-"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This ballot updates the $B!H(BBaseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publicly$B!>(BTrusted Code Signing Certificates$B!H(B version 3.4 in order to clarify language regarding
Signing Service and signing requests. The main goals of this ballot are to:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="null" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Clarify the Signing Service definition and the expected deployment model.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="null" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Remove requirements for signing request.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="null" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Change text so Signing Service is not categorized as a Delegated Third Party.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="null" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Not allow Signing Service to transport Private Key to Subscriber.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="null" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ensure Network Security Requirements are applicable to Signing Service.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="null" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">State audit requirements for Signing Service.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The following motion has been proposed by Bruce Morton of Entrust and endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ian McMillan.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E101A">MOTION BEGINS</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This ballot updates the $B!H(BBaseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publicly$B!>(BTrusted Code Signing Certificates$B!I(B ("Code Signing Baseline Requirements") based on version 3.4. MODIFY the Code Signing
Baseline Requirements as specified in the following redline: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/cabforum/code-signing/compare/93ee9976cdc4e1104952146e3556800459694874..701d195fa95fe49e8a02435fc40fb0a018686866__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!ai_SiHTiSodTE_VWwZi8Z8QT_M2lCkP6nJYlFupqIB2vMo07Rcbx2E0bKw4GyZ1-pOj0h-PvD9Z5okpQ_IY$">
https://github.com/cabforum/code-signing/compare/93ee9976cdc4e1104952146e3556800459694874..701d195fa95fe49e8a02435fc40fb0a018686866</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E101A">MOTION ENDS</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The procedure for this ballot is as follows:</span> Discussion (7 days)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Vote for approval (7 days)<o:p></o:p></p>
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