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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>Hi Martijn,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>I think this is a good clarification to separate the Signing Service from the Subscriber. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>Thanks, Bruce.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'> Martijn Katerbarg <martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 13, 2023 9:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce Morton <Bruce.Morton@entrust.com>; cscwg-public@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: Ballot CSC-21: Signing Service Update<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Bruce,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have a concern with the “Signing Service†definition:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>“**Signing Service**: An organization that generates the Key Pair and securely manages the Private Key associated with a Subscriber's Code Signing Certificate.â€<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>For subscribers that generate their own private keys and use these for signing (i.e., they manage them) I’m inclined to say that this would define them as a Signing Service.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Should we reword this to “An organization other than the Subscriber or any of its Affiliates, that generates the Key Pair and securely manages the Private Key associated with a Subscriber's Code Signing Certificateâ€?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards,<br><br>Martijn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=mail-editor-reference-message-container><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Cscwg-public <<a href="mailto:cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org">cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> on behalf of Bruce Morton via Cscwg-public <<a href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 12 October 2023 at 21:59<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a> <<a href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[Cscwg-public] Ballot CSC-21: Signing Service Update<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt;background:#FAFA03'><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p style='margin:0in'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Purpose of the Ballot</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal id=bkmrk-this-ballot-updates-><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>This ballot updates the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publiclyâ€Trusted Code Signing Certificates“ version 3.4 in order to clarify language regarding Signing Service and signing requests. The main goals of this ballot are to:</span><o:p></o:p></p><ol start=1 type=1 id=bkmrk-remove-dependencies-><li class=null style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Clarify the Signing Service definition and the expected deployment model.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=null style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Remove requirements for signing request.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=null style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Change text so Signing Service is not categorized as a Delegated Third Party.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=null style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Not allow Signing Service to transport Private Key to Subscriber.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=null style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Ensure Network Security Requirements are applicable to Signing Service.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=null style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>State audit requirements for Signing Service.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The following motion has been proposed by Bruce Morton of Entrust and endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ian McMillan.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E101A'>MOTION BEGINS</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>This ballot updates the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publiclyâ€Trusted Code Signing Certificates†("Code Signing Baseline Requirements") based on version 3.4. MODIFY the Code Signing Baseline Requirements as specified in the following redline: <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fcode-signing%2Fcompare%2F93ee9976cdc4e1104952146e3556800459694874..701d195fa95fe49e8a02435fc40fb0a018686866__%3B!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!ai_SiHTiSodTE_VWwZi8Z8QT_M2lCkP6nJYlFupqIB2vMo07Rcbx2E0bKw4GyZ1-pOj0h-PvD9Z5okpQ_IY%24&data=05%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C61903bc6de03473ef3cd08dbcb5db533%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638327375640038244%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=vwwWYg8V7iEthjofFqoDPCZh3Mkp8XD0I8TgHyb0VUc%3D&reserved=0">https://github.com/cabforum/code-signing/compare/93ee9976cdc4e1104952146e3556800459694874..701d195fa95fe49e8a02435fc40fb0a018686866</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E101A'>MOTION ENDS</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The procedure for this ballot is as follows:</span> Discussion (7 days)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:52.2pt;text-indent:-34.2pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Start Time: 2023-10-12 20:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:52.2pt;text-indent:-34.2pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>End Time: Not before 2023-10-19 20:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Vote for approval (7 days)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:52.2pt;text-indent:-34.2pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Start Time: TBD<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:52.2pt;text-indent:-34.2pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>End Time: TBD<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>