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--></style></head><body lang=en-SE link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Bruce,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have a concern with the “Signing Service” definition:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>“**Signing Service**: An organization that generates the Key Pair and securely manages the Private Key associated with a Subscriber's Code Signing Certificate.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>For subscribers that generate their own private keys and use these for signing (i.e., they manage them) I’m inclined to say that this would define them as a Signing Service.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Should we reword this to “An organization other than the Subscriber or any of its Affiliates, that generates the Key Pair and securely manages the Private Key associated with a Subscriber's Code Signing Certificate”?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards,<br><br>Martijn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=mail-editor-reference-message-container><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Cscwg-public <cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org> on behalf of Bruce Morton via Cscwg-public <cscwg-public@cabforum.org><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 12 October 2023 at 21:59<br><b>To: </b>cscwg-public@cabforum.org <cscwg-public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject: </b>[Cscwg-public] Ballot CSC-21: Signing Service Update<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt;background:#FAFA03'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p style='margin:0cm'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Purpose of the Ballot</span></b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal id=bkmrk-this-ballot-updates-><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>This ballot updates the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publicly‐Trusted Code Signing Certificates“ version 3.4 in order to clarify language regarding Signing Service and signing requests. The main goals of this ballot are to:</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><ol start=1 type=1 id=bkmrk-remove-dependencies-><li class=null style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Clarify the Signing Service definition and the expected deployment model.</span></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=null style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Remove requirements for signing request.</span></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=null style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Change text so Signing Service is not categorized as a Delegated Third Party.</span></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=null style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Not allow Signing Service to transport Private Key to Subscriber.</span></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=null style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Ensure Network Security Requirements are applicable to Signing Service.</span></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=null style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span class=pl-mh><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>State audit requirements for Signing Service.</span></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>The following motion has been proposed by Bruce Morton of Entrust and endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ian McMillan.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E101A'>MOTION BEGINS</span></b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>This ballot updates the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publicly‐Trusted Code Signing Certificates” ("Code Signing Baseline Requirements") based on version 3.4. MODIFY the Code Signing Baseline Requirements as specified in the following redline: <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fcode-signing%2Fcompare%2F93ee9976cdc4e1104952146e3556800459694874..701d195fa95fe49e8a02435fc40fb0a018686866__%3B!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!ai_SiHTiSodTE_VWwZi8Z8QT_M2lCkP6nJYlFupqIB2vMo07Rcbx2E0bKw4GyZ1-pOj0h-PvD9Z5okpQ_IY%24&data=05%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C61903bc6de03473ef3cd08dbcb5db533%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638327375640038244%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=vwwWYg8V7iEthjofFqoDPCZh3Mkp8XD0I8TgHyb0VUc%3D&reserved=0">https://github.com/cabforum/code-signing/compare/93ee9976cdc4e1104952146e3556800459694874..701d195fa95fe49e8a02435fc40fb0a018686866</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E101A'>MOTION ENDS</span></b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>The procedure for this ballot is as follows:</span><span lang=EN-US> Discussion (7 days)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:52.2pt;text-indent:-34.2pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Start Time: 2023-10-12 20:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:52.2pt;text-indent:-34.2pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>End Time: Not before 2023-10-19 20:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Vote for approval (7 days)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:52.2pt;text-indent:-34.2pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Start Time: TBD<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:52.2pt;text-indent:-34.2pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>End Time: TBD<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>