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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Ok, will review it and suggest changes if any<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-fareast-language:JA'>De:</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-language:JA'> Bruce Morton <Bruce.Morton@entrust.com> <br><b>Enviado el:</b> viernes, 4 de noviembre de 2022 13:59<br><b>Para:</b> Inigo Barreira <Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com>; cscwg-public@cabforum.org; Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <dzacharo@harica.gr><br><b>Asunto:</b> RE: [Cscwg-management] CEN standards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt;background:#FAFA03'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:JA'>CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>Hi Inigo, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>Perhaps it would be best if some one which has access to the document can review and suggest text, which they think could be added to the CSBRs. We do not want to reference the document as being a requirement. We are just trying to update the CSBRs to ensure we have sufficient requirements for a Signing Service.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>Thanks, Bruce.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:JA'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:JA'> Cscwg-management <<a href="mailto:cscwg-management-bounces@cabforum.org">cscwg-management-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Inigo Barreira via Cscwg-management<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 4, 2022 8:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <<a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>>; <a href="mailto:cscwg-management@cabforum.org">cscwg-management@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Cscwg-management] CEN standards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA'>WARNING: This email originated outside of Entrust.<br>DO NOT CLICK links or attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>There$B!-(Bs no such a process nor any liaison with CEN so I$B!-(Bm afraid there$B!-(Bs nothing we can do at the moment. I$B!-(Bve been in contact with CEN and also ETSI just in case (ETSI TC ESI has also access to the latest working draft from CEN because there$B!-(Bs a liaison between both entities but for ESI internal use only) but there$B!-(Bs no option, as of now, that we may have that document (except from buying it).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Unfortunately, I can$B!-(Bt share it here either.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>We can try to establish a relationship with CEN but I don$B!-(Bt see how considering the nature of their procedures and work and that the CABF is not an incorporated entity or alike, but we can ask.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-fareast-language:JA'>De:</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-language:JA'> Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <<a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>> <br><b>Enviado el:</b> viernes, 4 de noviembre de 2022 12:10<br><b>Para:</b> Inigo Barreira <<a href="mailto:Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com">Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:cscwg-management@cabforum.org">cscwg-management@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Cscwg-management] CEN standards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt;background:#FAFA03'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:JA'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Inigo,<br><br>In past discussions with Nick Pope (Vice Chair of ETSI ESI TC) about how the CABF could potentially use text from ETSI documents, he said that there is a process in which ETSI can examine and potentially give a perpetual license (or something like that). Obviously the source would need to be mentioned in the document, etc, etc.<br><br>Is it a good time to do a similar inquiry to CEN? I don't think we plan to copy the entire standard but perhaps some sections of interest to this group. Of course, the CABF Guidelines are distributed with Creative Commons attribution 4.0 International license and must continue to use this license which means free distribution.<br><br>As Tim said, if there is no such process within CEN, it's probably a non-starter to copy exact sections/paragraphs from CEN 419 241 into the CSBRs.<br><br><br>Thanks,<br>Dimitris.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 4/11/2022 10:56 $B&P(B.$B&L(B., Inigo Barreira via Cscwg-management wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Hi there,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>After the yesterday call, I got in touch with the CEN TC224 chairman to know how to obtain a copy of the server signing CEN standards for our review.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>The answer is:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>Unfortunately, I do not know any possibility to get the CEN standards free of charge. Even the WG members only have the latest working draft. This is because the national standardisation committees like DIN or AENOR etc. are (partly) financed by selling the final version of the standards.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE>I have a working draft of the standard that I can share but don$B!-(Bt know if this is the latest one. I$B!-(Bve asked him if he can provide us with the latest working draft to share. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cscwg-management mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Cscwg-management@cabforum.org">Cscwg-management@cabforum.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.cabforum.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fcscwg-management&data=05%7C01%7CInigo.Barreira%40sectigo.com%7C0d2fe580b7cb46d0723508dabe6460fc%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638031635581358852%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5dQgMRHvGfekidLV32Em8SU%2B%2Bf%2FC05ZlUj63RXp0cyI%3D&reserved=0">https://lists.cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/cscwg-management</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA'>Any email and files/attachments transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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