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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Attendees:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> - Dean Coclin<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> - Atsushi Inaba<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> - Corey Bonnell<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <span lang=ES>- Lynn Jeun<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> - Martijn Katerbarg<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> - Ian McMillan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> </span>- Bruce Morton<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> - Michael Sykes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> - Tomas Gustavsson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Minutes:<o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Anti-Trust Statement read by Dean<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Prior meeting minutes fron July 28, 2022 are approved without objection or comment.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>CSC-15 Ballot Status<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Voting period closed and Dean will be announcing the results.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Next steps to send out for IPR.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Signing Service Proposed Ballot Update<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Bruce is waiting for the CSC-15 ballot to clear before proceeding.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Suggested changes need to be merged using Bruce's Word markup to a GitHub PR.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Timestamping Updates<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Ian waiting on talking with Tim Hollebeek to incorporate his feedback on changes (Tim back next week).<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Looking at setting clear expectations on TSA CA protection requirements being offline and shortening the TSA entity certificate max validity period.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Malware Proposal from Martijn<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Further discussion with Bruce lead to changes in the removal of exceptions for not having to notify the subscriber when the Certificate Beneficiary reaches out on a key compromise scenario. This is invoked in both 4.9.1.1 and 4.9.1.3. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Martijn is waiting on feedback from Ian on the new updates before proceeding with the ballot proposal. In general Ian is feeling this is on the right track, but will follow up with detailed feedback.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Martijn will be posting the proposal to both the mailing list and on the GitHub <o:p></o:p></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Handling changes in the future (GitHub vs Mailing List + marked-up Word)<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Do we hold the conversation on the PRs in GitHub or on the Mailing List?<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=square><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>There is no convention right now.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>SCWG has a mix but no true stated norm.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Smaller or targeted comments and changes on specific lines is great in GitHub.<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=square><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>Handling on the list with multiple copies of the Word doc can be difficult to track/follow.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Larger or broader changes can be harder to view in its totality on GitHub.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>No conclusion, discussion will continue.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Chair/Vice-Chair Elections Coming Up<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Dean to put out an announcement in the next week or 2 weeks (must be before August 30, 2022).<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Vice-Chair election will be first, followed by the Chair.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Chairs and Vice-Chairs have the option to re-run for another term.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Any Vice-Chair candidates need to get a nomination from a WG member in to the Chair.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Bruce is willing to continue as Vice-Chair (nomination for Bruce).<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'>Elections ballots are submitted to either the WebTrust (Don S or Jeff W) or ETSI (Arnaud) representative members.<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=square><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>ETSI and WebTrust members compiled the votes and provide only the results without sharing a detailed breakdown of who voted for who.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>Only one vote per organization (not per individual participant).<o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>Next meeting on August 25, 2022<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3'>Dean Coclin<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>