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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/9/2021 6:53 μ.μ., Bruce Morton
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">I
am asking if CSC-11 can move forward as is OR do we have to
take an action to allow CSC-11 to get passed.
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IMO <b>Ian must start the voting period</b> by sending the same
e-mail (including the redline) and then r<b>eset the 7 days voting
period</b>. We should be fine because we haven't passed the 21
days from last post of a draft. Members that already voted will have
to re-vote.<br>
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<br>
Thanks,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</span></b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> Dimitris
Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr"><dzacharo@harica.gr></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bruce Morton
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Bruce.Morton@entrust.com"><Bruce.Morton@entrust.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cscwg-public] [EXTERNAL] Voting
Begins: Ballot CSC-11: Update to log data retention<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 28/9/2021 6:46 μ.μ., Bruce Morton
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Hi
Dimitris,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Do
we have any action for ballot CSC-11?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><br>
I'm not sure what you mean.<br>
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Are you asking what steps we should perform for CSC-11?<br>
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<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Bruce.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</span></b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> Cscwg-public
<a href="mailto:cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA)
via Cscwg-public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bruce Morton via Cscwg-public <a
href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<cscwg-public@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cscwg-public] [EXTERNAL] Voting
Begins: Ballot CSC-11: Update to log data retention</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Bruce,<br>
<br>
According to the Bylaws section 2.3 (3), it is possible for
the discussion period to be more than 7 days so the
<b>proposer</b> of the ballot must explicitly start the
voting period which is for exactly 7 days. I don't think Ian
started the voting period.
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<i>"Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for
seven (7) calendar days,
<b>the proposer may end the discussion period and start
the voting period</b> by <b>
reposting the final version of the ballot</b> and
clearly i<b>ndicating that voting is to begin</b>, along
with the start and end dates and times (including time
zone) for the voting period"</i><br>
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Also, Ian's original email had a link to the wiki, which is
not publicly available (thus not acceptable according to the
Bylaws), but the redline that was attached met the
requirements. This redline needs to be re-sent when Ian
starts the voting period.<br>
<br>
I am highlighting this for future ballots so that if there
is only a pointer to a redline hosted at an external site,
the link must be pointing to a public and immutable redline.<br>
<br>
Sorry for reporting this but it's best to do this right than
having challenges in the future.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 27/9/2021 3:11 μ.μ., Bruce Morton
via Cscwg-public wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Entrust votes Yes to
ballot CSC-11.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Bruce.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</span></b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> Cscwg-public
<a href="mailto:cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ian McMillan via Cscwg-public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 24, 2021 7:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [Cscwg-public] Voting
Begins: Ballot CSC-11: Update to log data retention</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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moz-do-not-send="true">Ballot CSC-11: Update to log
data retention requirements</a></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Purpose of this ballot: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Update the log data and retention of
log data requirements in the Baseline Requirement for the
Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Code Signing
Certificates v2.5. The following motion has been proposed
by Ian McMillan of Microsoft, and endorsed by Dimitris
Zacharopoulos (HARICA) and Bruce Morton (Entrust).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">— MOTION BEGINS — <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This ballot updates the “Baseline
Requirements for the Issuance and Management of
Publicly‐Trusted Code Signing Certificates“ version 2.5
according to the attached redline which includes:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Update
section 15 “Data Records” removing references to
[SSL/TLS] Baseline Requirements for this section in
totality<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Update
section 15 “Data Records” to include sub-section 15.1
“Types of Events Recorded” and describing the
requirements for CAs and Third Party Delegates while
removing “Signing Services”<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Update
section 15 “Data Records” to include sub-section 15.2
“Timestamp Authority Data Records”<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Update
section 15.1 to clarify 4(f) for security event logging
on Timestamp Authority servers<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Update
section 15.1 on 4(d) for security event logging to no
longer include “hardware failures”<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Update
section 15 “Data Records” to include sub-section 15.3
“Data Retention Period for Audit Logs”<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Update
section 15.2 to no longer reference Baseline
Requirements section 5.4.3 and defined a specific
retention period for CA, subscriber certificate,
Timestamp Authority, and security event data records for
at least 2 years<o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">— MOTION ENDS —<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The procedure for approval of this
ballot is as follows:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion (7 days) <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Start Time: 2021-09-17, 19:00 Eastern
Time (US) <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">End Time: not before 2021-09-24, 19:00
Eastern Time (US)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Vote for approval (7 days) <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Start Time: 2021-09-24, 19:00 Eastern
Time (US) <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">End Time: 2021-10-01, 19:00 Eastern
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